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If a white man says something demeaning about a black man, that is racist. If a black man says something demeaning about a white man, that is racist too. Regardless of majority/minority status, these are both incidents of racism, not reverse racism. RR is not the opposite of racism, although it is often used as such. WP stated conclusions, the majority group racism being replaced by minority group racism. Let's determine its actual definition via Affirmative Action example. Minority disadvantage propped-up by the Majority. In essence, the member of the more qualified Majority losses out. Where does the guilt lie? Group Majority is against Majority member, by law. Is reverse racism- the intended target against a race, protected, target of race is then deflected to non-protected group or race, and told sorry?  Is reverse racism just 'new racism'? It is deep and more understanding needed.  In the guis of doing good, laws are inacted to protect the less fortunate from discrimination. These same laws that fight discrimination, actually discriminate against others.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt|  ]]</sup> 00:01, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 
If a white man says something demeaning about a black man, that is racist. If a black man says something demeaning about a white man, that is racist too. Regardless of majority/minority status, these are both incidents of racism, not reverse racism. RR is not the opposite of racism, although it is often used as such. WP stated conclusions, the majority group racism being replaced by minority group racism. Let's determine its actual definition via Affirmative Action example. Minority disadvantage propped-up by the Majority. In essence, the member of the more qualified Majority losses out. Where does the guilt lie? Group Majority is against Majority member, by law. Is reverse racism- the intended target against a race, protected, target of race is then deflected to non-protected group or race, and told sorry?  Is reverse racism just 'new racism'? It is deep and more understanding needed.  In the guis of doing good, laws are inacted to protect the less fortunate from discrimination. These same laws that fight discrimination, actually discriminate against others.--'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt|  ]]</sup> 00:01, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
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:: "In the guise of doing good, laws are inacted to protect the less fortunate from discrimination (Affirmative Action). These same laws that fight discrimination, actually discriminate against others."  The are two seperate instances of racism. One, I mentioned the white person doesn't make the cut because the white group has to hire somebody less than qualified. The white person may cry reverse racism. The second instance, a white person decries Affirmative Action, claiming racism, it must be dismantled. The less qualified person says no-way, that is racist not to admit disadvantaged groups. One of these or both of these are instances of reverse racism. --'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt|  ]]</sup> 14:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)  
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:: "In the guise of doing good, laws are enacted to protect the less fortunate from discrimination (Affirmative Action). These same laws that fight discrimination, actually discriminate against others."  The are two separate instances of racism. One, I mentioned the white person doesn't make the cut because the white group has to hire somebody less than qualified. The white person may cry reverse racism. The second instance, a white person decries Affirmative Action, claiming racism, it must be dismantled. The less qualified person says no-way, that is racist not to admit disadvantaged groups. One of these or both of these are instances of reverse racism. --'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt|  ]]</sup> 14:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)  
 
:::I think I understood your concept of "reverse racism" until you said that.  Why does either have to be an example of reverse racism?  In the first instance, you highlight the problem of affirmative action and then say that the person will claim it is "reverse racism."  This is the definition that HelpJazz referred to, the definition that is incorrect.  This is not the definition in this article.  The second instance seems to adhere closer to your definition, but it doesn't seem to exactly fit, since it seems more like a disagreement over affirmative action rather than a false accusation of racism.  Also, I don't exactly know what the purpose of the comment was.  Was it meant to explain the article's definition of reverse racism?  I think the point of HelpJazz's comment was that this article doesn't explain the common (incorrect) use of the term.  Sorry for any misunderstanding.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 14:57, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I think I understood your concept of "reverse racism" until you said that.  Why does either have to be an example of reverse racism?  In the first instance, you highlight the problem of affirmative action and then say that the person will claim it is "reverse racism."  This is the definition that HelpJazz referred to, the definition that is incorrect.  This is not the definition in this article.  The second instance seems to adhere closer to your definition, but it doesn't seem to exactly fit, since it seems more like a disagreement over affirmative action rather than a false accusation of racism.  Also, I don't exactly know what the purpose of the comment was.  Was it meant to explain the article's definition of reverse racism?  I think the point of HelpJazz's comment was that this article doesn't explain the common (incorrect) use of the term.  Sorry for any misunderstanding.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 14:57, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
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::::I am also trying to get at the real definition because many exist. I trying to accommodate HelpJazz in making an accurate definition. Don't worry about being misunderstood, I am not able to logically convey a complex thought without sounding wacked. I was just trying to dissect WP's explanation for RR. I want to say the group label majority versus minority, is not reverse racism. But what is it then? Hunters aren't considered anti-semitic, but it is used purposely to brand them as such. That is as close to reverse racism I can come up with. --'''<font color="#6698FF">J</font><font color="#E41B17">p</font><font color="#F88017">a</font><font color="#347C17">t</font><font color="#A74AC7">t</font>'''<sup>[[User:Jpatt|  ]]</sup> 15:07, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
     
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