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::: Your comments about John 3:12 seem irrelevant. Okay, so it was drawing a distinction between the material and the spiritual. John 3:12 wouldn't have made sense without there being a distinction. If you don't believe one, you won't believe the other. If the two weren't distinct, that would make no sense.
::: Your comments about John 3:12 seem irrelevant. Okay, so it was drawing a distinction between the material and the spiritual. John 3:12 wouldn't have made sense without there being a distinction. If you don't believe one, you won't believe the other. If the two weren't distinct, that would make no sense.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:08, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:08, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
::I use "article" to refer to anything written, peer-reviewed or not. A paper is merely something which consumes an inordinate amount of time for little to no demonstratable progress:-) (can you tell I have a deadline looming?). I am using my own interpretation of the primary documents, and it is possible that there has been something lost in translation from the original Latin. As far as how they might have mis-interpreted the primary documents, I freely admit that I might have misinterpreted them, though they are faily straightforward. But the fact remains that the Church actively suppressed science precepts which disagreed with it.
::I think I can sum up the other portion of our other debate more simply now that we have both fleshed out our arguments. I assert that the inerrancy of the Bible comes in the term of "big picture" items. What is important is that God created the universe, that man (or perhaps creation in general?) was marred by sin, and that Christ died for our sins. When and how these particular things came about is irrelevant to me, because in the end, everything goes back to God.
::Your arguments, on the other hand (and I really hope I am not mis-representing them), assert that all the details of the Bible are Truth, because it is the sacred word of God. If I have summarized the arguments accurately, then further debate would entail debates over our individual religious foundations, which I wish to avoid. With that in mind, and given that this debate probably doesn't belong on the Roman Catholicism talk page, I think it may be better if I at least moved on. I don't want to "give up," but I'd rather not step on too many toes. --[[User:Thinker|Thinker]] 11:25, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
== Roman Catholicism ==
== Roman Catholicism ==