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::::::Is just told you I thought green summer foliage was beautiful, I dont like autumn foliage because it reminds me of winter. I have a friend who works at a university studying fungi and he thinks fungi is beautiful. Do you find molds and fungi beautiful? As to an open mind, well, you're the one denying that other people may have different ideas of what constitutes beauty. [[User:PatWills|PatWills]] 15:55, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::Is just told you I thought green summer foliage was beautiful, I dont like autumn foliage because it reminds me of winter. I have a friend who works at a university studying fungi and he thinks fungi is beautiful. Do you find molds and fungi beautiful? As to an open mind, well, you're the one denying that other people may have different ideas of what constitutes beauty. [[User:PatWills|PatWills]] 15:55, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
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Abstract judgements like "beauty" have no place in proving or disproving a scientific theory.  They are unmeasurable & unprovable by scientific methods.  Besides which, even if we accept that autumn leaves are pretty, how can that possibly disprove the evolution of plants & animals?  It says absolutely nothing about the biological origin of that foliage; it only relates to our own perception of it.  It has a lot to do with human views of nature, which have changed considerable throughout history, and vary from culture to culture.  Meanwhile, we have no evidence that animals find that autumn foliage to be beautiful, or even have an appreciation of beauty at all.  The perception of beauty is generally believed to be unique to humans, and whether you believe it to be a human construct or a gift from God, it cannot prove or disprove anything about the nature of the thing that we perceive to be beautiful or how it came to be.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 19:34, 26 October 2008 (EDT)
    
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