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::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
 
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)
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It is my understanding from a recent article on Fox that the form presented lists him as "African".  This was 1961.  The concept of African-American or any reference to African in racial makeup, while very prevalent in the last 15+ years, was still more than 20 years off.  Birth certificates in 1961 used "Negro".  I'm surprised this isn't mentioned anywhere. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:19, 27 October 2008 (EDT)
    
== Favorite black leader ==
 
== Favorite black leader ==
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