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::::If there is no free will how can we sin?-[[User:AmesG|AmesG]] 12:15, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
 
::::If there is no free will how can we sin?-[[User:AmesG|AmesG]] 12:15, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
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:::::My point exactly, which in my opinion refutes, to an extent, God's immanence. God cannot be immanent to the point where he controls humans' individual actions, or thus we cannot sin(unless of course God willing a human being to do something that is sinful still counts as a sin, which is I guess possible, but highly unfair and illogical)--[[User:Elamdri|Elamdri]] 12:19, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
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