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| | Page has become a vandalism magnet - which, by the way, proves the thesis of the movie: people want to shut Stein up instead of answering his points. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 21 April 2008 (EDT) | | Page has become a vandalism magnet - which, by the way, proves the thesis of the movie: people want to shut Stein up instead of answering his points. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:43, 21 April 2008 (EDT) |
| − | | + | :Ed, with respect, I think that all it really proves is that vandals exist and they like hot button issues.[[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 18:59, 2 September 2008 (EDT) |
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| | IMDB, RottenTomatoes.com, Amazon.com and other ratings/review gathering sites are worthless because they rely on user submissions and can be skewed by people with a lot of free time on their hands (much like the way online polls are often skewed). IMDB and Amazon both have user-based ratings/reviews and Rotten Tomatoes has user-submitted ratings/reviews by other people who may or may not be well-known. I mean, on RT, they have ratings/reviews by such household names as Ken Hanke of the Mountain Xpress in Asheville, NC, and Fred Topel of Can Magazine (I've been in a lot of bookstores and libraries and I can say I've never seen Can Magazine - which sounds like a magazine which needs to be placed in a special obscuring bag on the top shelf), among others. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:28, 28 August 2008 (EDT) | | IMDB, RottenTomatoes.com, Amazon.com and other ratings/review gathering sites are worthless because they rely on user submissions and can be skewed by people with a lot of free time on their hands (much like the way online polls are often skewed). IMDB and Amazon both have user-based ratings/reviews and Rotten Tomatoes has user-submitted ratings/reviews by other people who may or may not be well-known. I mean, on RT, they have ratings/reviews by such household names as Ken Hanke of the Mountain Xpress in Asheville, NC, and Fred Topel of Can Magazine (I've been in a lot of bookstores and libraries and I can say I've never seen Can Magazine - which sounds like a magazine which needs to be placed in a special obscuring bag on the top shelf), among others. [[User:Jinxmchue|Jinxmchue]] 00:28, 28 August 2008 (EDT) |
| | : Whilst I agree with much of that, your comments about Can Magazine, based solely on your ignorance of it and its name, is inappropriate. [http://www.canmag.com/ It appears] to be a legitimate magazine. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:45, 28 August 2008 (EDT) | | : Whilst I agree with much of that, your comments about Can Magazine, based solely on your ignorance of it and its name, is inappropriate. [http://www.canmag.com/ It appears] to be a legitimate magazine. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:45, 28 August 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | :Dinsdale's more-or-less on the money. LT, the problem is that people ''do'' game the system, and on a site like Amazon or IMDB, there's no accountability. At least with professional reviewers, you can ascertain their biases based on their record of reviews, and filter what they say accordingly; when Joe Blow from Passaic puts up a rating, there's no way of knowing for sure whether it's an honest rating or motivated by political bias. --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 14:47, 29 August 2008 (EDT) |
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| | == Expelled now on Amazon. PZ gets his fans to flood item with phony 1-star reviews. == | | == Expelled now on Amazon. PZ gets his fans to flood item with phony 1-star reviews. == |