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:::I had thought that all the liberal trolls from all the liberal blogs had stopped coming here at this point, and had gone back to looking at naked pictures of naked stars from the WB and crying about global warming. If you think faith is silly, fine; we get that, but attempting to silence a reasonable debate by declaring it "silly" (without citations, in all caps, no less) is unAmerican, unConservapedian, and downright cowardly. It's no wonder that all the good writers have left for the other Conservative Wiki. Here's hoping you see the light, <br />Mr. Pony.
:::I had thought that all the liberal trolls from all the liberal blogs had stopped coming here at this point, and had gone back to looking at naked pictures of naked stars from the WB and crying about global warming. If you think faith is silly, fine; we get that, but attempting to silence a reasonable debate by declaring it "silly" (without citations, in all caps, no less) is unAmerican, unConservapedian, and downright cowardly. It's no wonder that all the good writers have left for the other Conservative Wiki. Here's hoping you see the light, <br />Mr. Pony.
::::Two things. First, you never bothered to look at his edit, which is freely available for all to look at via the history page. Second, what he edited wasn't even part of a debate, unless you think revisionist history should be applied here. And there is the third thing, which someone else solved for me. You got banned. Have a nice day. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 07:52, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
::::Two things. First, you never bothered to look at his edit, which is freely available for all to look at via the history page. Second, what he edited wasn't even part of a debate, unless you think revisionist history should be applied here. And there is the third thing, which someone else solved for me. You got banned. Have a nice day. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 07:52, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
== Abject failures ==
Both sides tried invasions which led in every case to humilation and defeat. The British did raid Washington and burned public buildings, but they failed to capture Baltimore, the Americans killed the commanding British officer, and the Brits immediately retreated to their ships and sailed away. Worse, the affair united the Americans who demanded revenge and got it at New Orleans. That's what failure looks like. The British commander of the invasion of New York state failed just as badly; he died just as he went to court martial. As for the British invasion of New Orleans, it was one of the most lopsided defeats in the history of the British army, with its top commanders hot dead. On the other hand, the American performance in invading Canada was even worse, believe it or not. "Abject" is defined as "sunk to or existing in a low state or condition; cast down in spirit : without spirit or pride." It seems to fit. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:59, 5 November 2008 (EST)