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I'm not going to bother to check the other refs. This sounds like trying to grab onto the coattails of the real victims. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:32, 10 November 2008 (EST)
I'm not going to bother to check the other refs. This sounds like trying to grab onto the coattails of the real victims. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 14:32, 10 November 2008 (EST)
:It seems by your words you are saying that unless the same number (or similar numbers) of people die in a particular event, the smaller group is not the real "victim". In my home town, two killers targeted "popular people" "jocks" and "Christians" at a school shooting. They also shot a teacher and at least 2 students who were not in the above 3 groups. by your logic, or at least the way you present your logic, the 2 students and teacher were not really "victims", they just wanted to grab onto the coat tails of real victims. Gays were targeted and killed by the Nazis. Just in smaller numbers. Same with the physically and mentally disabled. Same with various ethnic groups. These groups are still victims. I'm sorry if you think the only people who are victims are those whose numbers were most depleted. I think anyone who is killed is a victim. Again, I respect that I should not change the article, since you put far more time and energy into this site. but I would ask you to rethink your stance, as it is not a stance of love.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 15:12, 10 November 2008 (EST)
:It seems by your words you are saying that unless the same number (or similar numbers) of people die in a particular event, the smaller group is not the real "victim". In my home town, two killers targeted "popular people" "jocks" and "Christians" at a school shooting. They also shot a teacher and at least 2 students who were not in the above 3 groups. by your logic, or at least the way you present your logic, the 2 students and teacher were not really "victims", they just wanted to grab onto the coat tails of real victims. Gays were targeted and killed by the Nazis. Just in smaller numbers. Same with the physically and mentally disabled. Same with various ethnic groups. These groups are still victims. I'm sorry if you think the only people who are victims are those whose numbers were most depleted. I think anyone who is killed is a victim. Again, I respect that I should not change the article, since you put far more time and energy into this site. but I would ask you to rethink your stance, as it is not a stance of love.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 15:12, 10 November 2008 (EST)
You should correct the article if it is wrong. But you should not but your own spin on things.
No one is saying that if 0.1% of concentration camp internees were killed because they were homosexual, they weren't victims. I'm just saying there is no evidence that homosexuals were targeted in anything like the way Jews were.
Did you read the source I quoted? I read two of yours.
My source indicates that gays were interned because of behavior - not identity - specifically having sex with people of their own gender in public places. I'm sure you understand the difference between behavior and "membership in a group".
For example, some people daydream about acting like Robin Hood, and "stealing from the rich to give to the poor". But in the U.S. no one is put in jail for '''advocating''' such a redistribution of wealth. They would be jailed if they actually '''stole''' something, though. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:39, 10 November 2008 (EST)