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::::: That statement doesn't appear on Wikipedia.  Not all opinions are gossip, but gossip is wholly contained in the realm of opinion. --[[User:Charliemc86|Charliemc86]] 17:40, 21 March 2007 (CST)
 
::::: That statement doesn't appear on Wikipedia.  Not all opinions are gossip, but gossip is wholly contained in the realm of opinion. --[[User:Charliemc86|Charliemc86]] 17:40, 21 March 2007 (CST)
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:Andy, you've given examples of gossip, but if we could come up with an actual definition to follow, that would be helpful.  Gossip is in the eye of the beholder.[[User:Palmd001|Palmd001]] 18:27, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
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My suggestion is this: '''Personal websites may not be used as an article's reference.'''  If we put that into force we will save ourselves enormous amounts of difficulty.  Gossip is always personal opinion.  Personal websites abound in gossip.  And, it is often presented as part of a larger page that has some attention getting element.  An example is in the [[Scientology]] article where Andreas Heldal-Lund's personal site, xenu.net is cited [http://www.xenu.net/archive/audit/latey.html] for his hand typed representation of a court document.  But also appearing on the page are his evaluations and criticisms and bias about the court document and surrounding issues. [[User:Terryeo|Terryeo]] 18:44, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
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:Andy, you've given examples of gossip, but if we could come up with an actual definition to follow, that would be helpful.  Gossip is in the eye of the beholder.[[User:Palmd001|Palmd001]] 18:27, 21 March 2007 (EDT)
      
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