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:Now that that's out of the way, thank you for finally explaining the use of this template. Are you going to take up the project of adding it to every liberal? Of so the [[:category:liberals|liberals category]] is a good place to start. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:32, 16 November 2008 (EST)
 
:Now that that's out of the way, thank you for finally explaining the use of this template. Are you going to take up the project of adding it to every liberal? Of so the [[:category:liberals|liberals category]] is a good place to start. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:32, 16 November 2008 (EST)
 
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::*I would not be adding it to yet another template, as this one is informational in nature, and not intended to be linked to all other articles about liberals. '''Nice try, using a Red Herring, Jazz. ''I didn't call you a liberal'', I stated a fact, that you are, self-admittedly so, a libertarian, and not a conservative.'''  Do I need to provide links to where you posted that fact?  What several of us are wondering is, why you would take this fight to public postings, instead of your usual contact via AIM?  To many it appears it is done to better coordinate with others who agree with you.  As I said, if you have a problem calling out liberals, Wikipedia is the place for you and anyone else who has trouble doing that.  Our job here is to identify [[liberals]], [[liberal deceit]] and [[Liberal myths]] wherever it/they exists.  Ours is an educational mission, to educate the public about what makes a liberal a liberal, and clearly show their deceitful methods of obfuscation, deflection and arguing-without-end to ensure liberal deceit is not exposed. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</font></sup> 17:23, 16 November 2008 (EST)
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::I would not be adding it to yet another template, as this one is informational in nature, and not intended to be linked to all other articles about liberals. '''Nice try, using a Red Herring, Jazz. ''I didn't call you a liberal'', I stated a fact, that you are, self-admittedly so, a libertarian, and not a conservative.'''  Do I need to provide links to where you posted that fact?  What several of us are wondering is, why you would take this fight to public postings, instead of your usual contact via AIM?  To many it appears it is done to better coordinate with others who agree with you.  As I said, if you have a problem calling out liberals, Wikipedia is the place for you and anyone else who has trouble doing that.  Our job here is to identify [[liberals]], [[liberal deceit]] and [[Liberal myths]] wherever it/they exists.  Ours is an educational mission, to educate the public about what makes a liberal a liberal, and clearly show their deceitful methods of obfuscation, deflection and arguing-without-end to ensure liberal deceit is not exposed. --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</font></sup> 17:23, 16 November 2008 (EST)
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:::I didn't say you should add another template, I'm not sure what you are talking about. You said "One simply adds it whenever one comes across an article about a liberal"; I was pointing out that many such articles can be found in the liberals category.
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:::"Red hearing", yeah right. First of all, you were the one who started the red herring by bringing up ideologies at all. You are correct, you didn't call me a liberal, you called me a non-conservative. (You didn't call me a libertarian). Either way, your implication that the only reason I want to use the template in the manner discussed back in April is because I am a "non-conservative" and I have trouble identifying liberals or liberal deciet is patently false, and is only being used to derail this conversation. I have already stated, in the above discussion, back in April, that your line of reasoning has no bearing on why I want to use the navtemplate as a navtemplate. If you would please read that discussion and stop using the same faulty line of reasoning it would be greatly appreciated.
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:::Lasty, AIM is ''not'' my usual contact, it's yours. Ask any other editor if I ever contact them through AIM. I used to contact you over AIM only because you did it, not because I wanted to. The reason I'm not using AIM now is because I'm tired of you saying one thing in AIM and then doing something else online. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 17:59, 16 November 2008 (EST)
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