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::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:35, 12 November 2008 (EST)

::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:35, 12 November 2008 (EST)

::::I rarely disagree with you, Philip, as I find your comments to be some of the more considered on this board, but here I would have to disagree.  Jesus makes it quite clear that divorce *is* adultery, not *like* adultery.  More then any other text, especially OT text, I take Jesus's words to heart. Mark 10

::::I rarely disagree with you, Philip, as I find your comments to be some of the more considered on this board, but here I would have to disagree.  Jesus makes it quite clear that divorce *is* adultery, not *like* adultery.  More then any other text, especially OT text, I take Jesus's words to heart. Mark 10

2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"

::::2 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"

3 "What did Moses command you?" he replied.

::::3 "What did Moses command you?" he replied.

4 They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

::::4 They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."

5 "It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied.

::::5 "It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law," Jesus replied.

6 "But at the beginning of creation God `made them male and female.'

::::6 "But at the beginning of creation God `made them male and female.'

7 `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,

::::7 `For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,

8 and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one.

::::8 and the two will become one flesh.' So they are no longer two, but one.

9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

::::9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.

::::10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this.

11 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.

::::11 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her.

12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery." --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 09:41, 12 November 2008 (EST)

::::12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery." --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 09:41, 12 November 2008 (EST)

::::: I didn't say that divorce is "like" adultery.  I said that it's ''not'' adultery.  And the evidence you've offered to refute that doesn't refute that.  The Bible says that someone who divorces ''and remarries'' commits adultery, not that someone who ''divorces'' commits adultery.  You can't have adultery without sexual intercourse, which would be taken as given with someone remarrying, but not a given with someone just divorcing.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:33, 17 November 2008 (EST)

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