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::::The difference comes when every statement where he didn't add a fact tag, he added a citation. Which leads me to believe that he did try to look for citations but couldn't find them. If he were truley "ideologically motivated" wouldn't it have been more effective for him to add fact tags to everything, so as to not provide any help to the opposing "ideology"? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:13, 16 November 2008 (EST) PS: you said "you are questioning the entire validity of the article, rather than just one or two points" -- So? What if the entire validity of the article is at issue?
 
::::The difference comes when every statement where he didn't add a fact tag, he added a citation. Which leads me to believe that he did try to look for citations but couldn't find them. If he were truley "ideologically motivated" wouldn't it have been more effective for him to add fact tags to everything, so as to not provide any help to the opposing "ideology"? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:13, 16 November 2008 (EST) PS: you said "you are questioning the entire validity of the article, rather than just one or two points" -- So? What if the entire validity of the article is at issue?
 
:::::I can't speak for his motivations, I can only speak for the effect it creates: that the whole article looks like one big citation tag. The entire validity of this article is NOT at issue. It was created by Andy half a year ago and has had a large number of editors contribute and refine it. For Ferno to come in now and add cite tags to the majority of the points betrays either a wanton arrogance or else an ideological motivation. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 02:49, 17 November 2008 (EST)
 
:::::I can't speak for his motivations, I can only speak for the effect it creates: that the whole article looks like one big citation tag. The entire validity of this article is NOT at issue. It was created by Andy half a year ago and has had a large number of editors contribute and refine it. For Ferno to come in now and add cite tags to the majority of the points betrays either a wanton arrogance or else an ideological motivation. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 02:49, 17 November 2008 (EST)
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::::::The problem is, of the 31 points on there only 8 have citations. Many of the points just do not seem true to me, but I'm not going to get into an argument about that because I obviously have a bias. Many of them just appear to be insults and I wanted to see examples of them. '''[[user:FernoKlump|<font color="#000066" >FernoKlump</font>]]'''<sup>[[User:FernoKlump/petition|<font color="#bd2433" >Look at this petition!]]</font></sup> 23:51, 17 November 2008 (EST)
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