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:And what do ''you'' see as being the facts here, Ed? How do you hope to achieve your synthesis? --[[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] 18:18, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 
:And what do ''you'' see as being the facts here, Ed? How do you hope to achieve your synthesis? --[[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] 18:18, 18 November 2008 (EST)
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::Yes, Ed, I'm sorry but I need it spelled out for me. This isn't a vague question for late night dorm hall meanderings. It's pretty concrete: the Obama-is-Muslim material, as Andy wants it presented, belongs in the article, or it doesn't. I can paint those two statements on horses and run them around a track if an over-extended metaphor will help here - only one of those horses can win. [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 18:31, 18 November 2008 (EST) ''<- will, however, need to learn to play the bugle (if not the bugler)...''
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:Wow, Ed, that's extremely well put!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:21, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 
:Wow, Ed, that's extremely well put!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:21, 18 November 2008 (EST)
    
:ASchalfly - you said, "We...note that the minority you cite has displayed almost no experience with Islam and/or Islamic education".  Might I ask what your own qualifications are in this regard, since you are clearly 'over-ruling' their opinions?  [[User:FredX|FredX]] 18:25, 18 November 2008 (EST)
 
:ASchalfly - you said, "We...note that the minority you cite has displayed almost no experience with Islam and/or Islamic education".  Might I ask what your own qualifications are in this regard, since you are clearly 'over-ruling' their opinions?  [[User:FredX|FredX]] 18:25, 18 November 2008 (EST)
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