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Line 30: − − ==Controversy== − − Both the campaigns for and against Proposition 8 were very controversial because of the means and practices associated with both campaigns. Overall it was the most expensive proposition ever on a ballot in the country's history and some believe that it was one of the major factors resulting in California's record high voter turnout. − − A large point of criticism of Proposition 8 came up after a series of television ads were placed that depicted a child coming home from school and telling her mother that she learned about "a prince who married a prince." The ads implied that if Proposition 8 failed, children would be forced to learn that a same-sex marriage is the same as a traditional marriage, which isn't technically true because it's up to the public school board what children should be taught. Activists against Proposition 8 took advantage of the misleading advertising to criticize proponents of Proposition 8 for lying to voters. Eventually the controversial ads were pulled, but the No on 8 campaign continued to broadcast ads criticizing the controversial ones. − − Another point of controversy was brought up when one of the heads of the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign allegedly sent a letter to several major corporate contributors to the No on 8 campaign threatening them if they didn't donate equal amounts to the Yes on 8 campaign as well.
Controversy before aftermath.
With 99% of the precincts in, the measure apparently was passed 52% to 48%. While much was made of the fact that it was losing in the polls up until the time of the election, proponents pointed out that similar measures were often reported as polling poorly, but the actual vote was different. For instance Proposition 22 was supposed to be too close to call in 2000. Although it had been claimed that minority voters were against the message, exit polling on election day showed that latinos favored it overall while blacks favored it with a 70% yes vote. The large number of blacks who came out to vote for [[Barack Obama]] helped to tip the scale for Proposition 8's passing, even though Obama himself said to vote against it.<ref>http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081106/news_1n6exit.html</ref>
With 99% of the precincts in, the measure apparently was passed 52% to 48%. While much was made of the fact that it was losing in the polls up until the time of the election, proponents pointed out that similar measures were often reported as polling poorly, but the actual vote was different. For instance Proposition 22 was supposed to be too close to call in 2000. Although it had been claimed that minority voters were against the message, exit polling on election day showed that latinos favored it overall while blacks favored it with a 70% yes vote. The large number of blacks who came out to vote for [[Barack Obama]] helped to tip the scale for Proposition 8's passing, even though Obama himself said to vote against it.<ref>http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081106/news_1n6exit.html</ref>
==Controversy==
Both the campaigns for and against Proposition 8 were very controversial because of the means and practices associated with both campaigns. Overall it was the most expensive proposition ever on a ballot in the country's history and some believe that it was one of the major factors resulting in California's record high voter turnout.
A large point of criticism of Proposition 8 came up after a series of television ads were placed that depicted a child coming home from school and telling her mother that she learned about "a prince who married a prince." The ads implied that if Proposition 8 failed, children would be forced to learn that a same-sex marriage is the same as a traditional marriage, which isn't technically true because it's up to the public school board what children should be taught. Activists against Proposition 8 took advantage of the misleading advertising to criticize proponents of Proposition 8 for lying to voters. Eventually the controversial ads were pulled, but the No on 8 campaign continued to broadcast ads criticizing the controversial ones.
Another point of controversy was brought up when one of the heads of the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign allegedly sent a letter to several major corporate contributors to the No on 8 campaign threatening them if they didn't donate equal amounts to the Yes on 8 campaign as well.
==Aftermath==
==Aftermath==
California Attorney General Jerry Brown believes that the 18,000 same-sex marriages that were performed before Proposition 8 passed are still valid.<ref>ACLU, ''California Will Continue to Honor Marriages of Same-Sex Couples Who Married Before the Possible Passage of Prop. 8, Initiative Would Only Apply to Future Marriages'', 11/5/2008 [http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/relationships/37701prs20081105.html]</ref> Others have postulated the marriages may be converted to domestic partnerships <ref>The Volokh Conspiracy, ''What Will Happen to California Same-Sex Marriages?'', Eugene Volokh, November 5, 2008 [http://www.volokh.com/posts/1225907782.shtml]</ref>, which in California have the same rights as marriage.<ref>Concurring Opinions, ''A small wrinkle regarding the Volokh proposal on Prop 8 retroactivity'', by Kaimipono D. Wenger, November 05, 2008 [http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/11/the_odd_legal_g.html] Marriage is not exactly the same as domestic partnership in California. For example, both partners must have a common residence in order to enter a domestic partnership, and both partners must be over 18; neither of these are required for marriage. </ref> The leaders of the Proposition 8 petition have not taken a position in this matter.
California Attorney General Jerry Brown believes that the 18,000 same-sex marriages that were performed before Proposition 8 passed are still valid.<ref>ACLU, ''California Will Continue to Honor Marriages of Same-Sex Couples Who Married Before the Possible Passage of Prop. 8, Initiative Would Only Apply to Future Marriages'', 11/5/2008 [http://www.aclu.org/lgbt/relationships/37701prs20081105.html]</ref> Others have postulated the marriages may be converted to domestic partnerships <ref>The Volokh Conspiracy, ''What Will Happen to California Same-Sex Marriages?'', Eugene Volokh, November 5, 2008 [http://www.volokh.com/posts/1225907782.shtml]</ref>, which in California have the same rights as marriage.<ref>Concurring Opinions, ''A small wrinkle regarding the Volokh proposal on Prop 8 retroactivity'', by Kaimipono D. Wenger, November 05, 2008 [http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/11/the_odd_legal_g.html] Marriage is not exactly the same as domestic partnership in California. For example, both partners must have a common residence in order to enter a domestic partnership, and both partners must be over 18; neither of these are required for marriage. </ref> The leaders of the Proposition 8 petition have not taken a position in this matter.
==References==
==References==