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:::Tommy-rot. Paul's Letter to the Romans is widely studied, multitudes of commentaries are available, and I doubt you will find many commentaries that interpret it as anything other than an attempt to heal a rift between the two branches of the church. Besides which you ignore Ignatius et al. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|שועל]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 12:23, 22 November 2008 (EST)
 
:::Tommy-rot. Paul's Letter to the Romans is widely studied, multitudes of commentaries are available, and I doubt you will find many commentaries that interpret it as anything other than an attempt to heal a rift between the two branches of the church. Besides which you ignore Ignatius et al. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|שועל]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 12:23, 22 November 2008 (EST)
 
::::My commentaries don't share your perspective, including the NIV Study Bible, which is a huge one.  If Paul saw a major problem within a church he would jump on it like he did in his letters to the Galatians and Corinthians.  Paul was never shy when it came to pointing out shortcomings.  Nevertheless, I am not going to tell you how you should believe.  Your readings and perspectives are your own.  But I am going to tell you that if we have a statement in the article claiming a specific historical event, then there better be specific historical backing for that position.  You know the rules Fox. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:46, 22 November 2008 (EST)
 
::::My commentaries don't share your perspective, including the NIV Study Bible, which is a huge one.  If Paul saw a major problem within a church he would jump on it like he did in his letters to the Galatians and Corinthians.  Paul was never shy when it came to pointing out shortcomings.  Nevertheless, I am not going to tell you how you should believe.  Your readings and perspectives are your own.  But I am going to tell you that if we have a statement in the article claiming a specific historical event, then there better be specific historical backing for that position.  You know the rules Fox. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:46, 22 November 2008 (EST)
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:::::I know that there are rules for some religions and not for others. Nowhere else on CP is anybody harried and pursued about "ancient texts" except with regard to Jewish believers. For some reason, we are beholden to a substantially higher burden of proof than ANY other denomination or sect written about within this wiki. Fortunately such proofs are available. I would direct you to J. A. Fitzmyer's excellent commentary on Romans, (Anchor Bible Commentary, New York: Doubleday, 1993) or Leander E. Keck's "The New Interpreter's Bible" (Abingdon Press, 2003 ISBN 0-6870-6347-7) as a starting point on your studies. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|שועל]] <small>([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])</small> 13:03, 22 November 2008 (EST)
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