| | :As to cocaine in Coke: as an economic conservative, I believe that the free market will remove harmful additives from food. In the case of Coke, [http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp the free market worked]. The same is happening with the "evil" trans fats -- liberal NYC and Chicago banned trans fats, but most companies simply removed them from their products when they found out consumers didn't like them. We also already mentioned Chinese food: the free market worked again (and most of these people aren't even born Americans!) So are you as bad as the liberals who want to have us eat boiled hemp? No. Are you using bad science to advocate that the government force regulation onto the free market? Yes. I don't call this economic conservatism; if that's what you call it then we'll agree to disagree on that point. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:30, 23 November 2008 (EST) | | :As to cocaine in Coke: as an economic conservative, I believe that the free market will remove harmful additives from food. In the case of Coke, [http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/cocaine.asp the free market worked]. The same is happening with the "evil" trans fats -- liberal NYC and Chicago banned trans fats, but most companies simply removed them from their products when they found out consumers didn't like them. We also already mentioned Chinese food: the free market worked again (and most of these people aren't even born Americans!) So are you as bad as the liberals who want to have us eat boiled hemp? No. Are you using bad science to advocate that the government force regulation onto the free market? Yes. I don't call this economic conservatism; if that's what you call it then we'll agree to disagree on that point. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:30, 23 November 2008 (EST) |
| | ::HelpJazz, that was a compelling argument, especially with regards to free market forces doing the job anyway. I would certainly agree that that has been the case with Chinese restaurants -- once enough people were aware that the Chinese use MSG ''liberally'' and that it was a bad substance, the Chinese restaurants had no economically sensible choice but to pull the ingredient and plaster NO MSG on their menus and doors. It just seemed from those sources I cited that MSG was present in numerous foods we weren't aware of -- from ramen noodles to potato chips, and under numerous pseudonyms, like hydrolized protein. But if, as you say, these cites are questionable, then I believe I have fallen victim to the liberal scare tactics. However, I thought it was a common truth that MSG was addictive. Maybe the liberals were just scaring the public by inflating the ubiquitous presence of MSG across food products? Do you know? -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 01:22, 24 November 2008 (EST) | | ::HelpJazz, that was a compelling argument, especially with regards to free market forces doing the job anyway. I would certainly agree that that has been the case with Chinese restaurants -- once enough people were aware that the Chinese use MSG ''liberally'' and that it was a bad substance, the Chinese restaurants had no economically sensible choice but to pull the ingredient and plaster NO MSG on their menus and doors. It just seemed from those sources I cited that MSG was present in numerous foods we weren't aware of -- from ramen noodles to potato chips, and under numerous pseudonyms, like hydrolized protein. But if, as you say, these cites are questionable, then I believe I have fallen victim to the liberal scare tactics. However, I thought it was a common truth that MSG was addictive. Maybe the liberals were just scaring the public by inflating the ubiquitous presence of MSG across food products? Do you know? -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 01:22, 24 November 2008 (EST) |
| | + | ::Wow, as I'm looking deeper and deeper into this issue, I'm finding very little concrete evidence characterizing the addictive nature of MSG and more and more liberals<ref>http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2005/05/13/msg_causes_most_obesity_but_congress_grants_immunity_to_food_producers.htm</ref> who are using the hype around MSG and aspartane and everything else to blindly accuse Bush of collusion with the food industry. This is nonsense. I appear to have been very wrong about this issue. The article needs a MAJOR rewrite. Thanks, HelpJazz, for your dogged persistence on this topic :-) We wouldn't want CP to have the wrong stance! -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 01:33, 24 November 2008 (EST) |