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::::::::::::: You're more than welcome to your views and we welcome many liberals to this site.  But you've advocated for [[gun control]] here and insisted that beauty is in the eye of the beholder (which is an atheistic viewpoint).  So I don't doubt that you hold some liberal beliefs.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)

::::::::::::: You're more than welcome to your views and we welcome many liberals to this site.  But you've advocated for [[gun control]] here and insisted that beauty is in the eye of the beholder (which is an atheistic viewpoint).  So I don't doubt that you hold some liberal beliefs.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:53, 25 November 2008 (EST)

(unindent) Andy, you are veering quite far off-topic here, a very liberal trait. You also are resorting to personal attacks, another liberal trait. You are also denying that PJR's evidence is intrinsically valuable, which is apparently an atheistic viewpoint. Are you a closet liberal?--[[User:JZim|JZim]] 22:02, 25 November 2008 (EST)

(unindent) Andy, you are veering quite far off-topic here, a very liberal trait. You also are resorting to personal attacks, another liberal trait. You are also denying that PJR's evidence is intrinsically valuable, which is apparently an atheistic viewpoint. Are you a closet liberal?--[[User:JZim|JZim]] 22:02, 25 November 2008 (EST)

 

Andy, why disclaim calling Phillip a liberal, and only provide half of the statement (only the latest) you made which did exaclty that.  You said "At bottom, liberal beliefs inevitably lead to demands for censorship.  We're seeing an illustration of that here," in response to Phillip's post.  You are directly ascribing liberal beliefs - which you had already made clear means political liberal beliefs - to Phillip.  So yes you are calling him a liberal.  If you wish to back away from that, the way to do it is to retract and apologise, not qualify and dilute.   

Andy, why disclaim calling Phillip a liberal, and only provide half of the statement (only the latest) you made which did exaclty that.  You said "At bottom, liberal beliefs inevitably lead to demands for censorship.  We're seeing an illustration of that here," in response to Phillip's post.  You are directly ascribing liberal beliefs - which you had already made clear means political liberal beliefs - to Phillip.  So yes you are calling him a liberal.  If you wish to back away from that, the way to do it is to retract and apologise, not qualify and dilute.