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:::Of course. Though I wish you luck in trying to get your ideas across to Philip and his acolytes. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 20:29, 2 December 2008 (EST)
 
:::Of course. Though I wish you luck in trying to get your ideas across to Philip and his acolytes. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 20:29, 2 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::Please, Bugler, stop being divisive by labeling groups as 'cliques'. You said that "prime facie evidence is posted as such, not as established fact." You are ''almost'' correct in saying this (I will get to that later), but much of this speculation (we seem to have agreed it is speculation) comes before many undisputed facts about Barack Obama.  This is the same as saying these opinions are more important than these facts.  Also, the title of the section most opposed by many users, "Barack Obama will likely be the First Muslim President," is an opinion. The opinions should be put at the bottom of the page, in order to promote the importance of undisputed facts. Surely you could agree to this. I have offered multiple compromises now. Please consider them.--'' '''[[user:JArneal|<font color="#006666" >JArneal</font>]]''' '' 20:53, 2 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::Please, Bugler, stop being divisive by labeling groups as 'cliques'. You said that "prime facie evidence is posted as such, not as established fact." You are ''almost'' correct in saying this (I will get to that later), but much of this speculation (we seem to have agreed it is speculation) comes before many undisputed facts about Barack Obama.  This is the same as saying these opinions are more important than these facts.  Also, the title of the section most opposed by many users, "Barack Obama will likely be the First Muslim President," is an opinion. The opinions should be put at the bottom of the page, in order to promote the importance of undisputed facts. Surely you could agree to this. I have offered multiple compromises now. Please consider them.--'' '''[[user:JArneal|<font color="#006666" >JArneal</font>]]''' '' 20:53, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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*I believe the "clique" remark was made by Bolly, the editor who proposed a compromise above.  Does everyone need a little cooling off period? I also remind others that it isn't Bugler's decision, it is Andy's.  Take a breath, everyone....have a soothing beverage! --<font color="#1E90FF" face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:TK|₮K]]</font><sup><font color="DC143C">[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</font></sup> 21:02, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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