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→Reversion of Ed Poor's edit: new section
The article does use the word deceit, so if it talks about liberal deceit, it's not very obvious. Additionally, this article describes the conservative position, should we put this in the conservatism category? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 22:16, 16 November 2008 (EST)
The article does use the word deceit, so if it talks about liberal deceit, it's not very obvious. Additionally, this article describes the conservative position, should we put this in the conservatism category? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 22:16, 16 November 2008 (EST)
== Reversion of Ed Poor's edit ==
I reverted the inclusion of the quote "Even more troublesome is the fact that the places where gun control laws are toughest tend to be the places where the most crime is committed with illegal weapons." for the following reasons:
* It was taken out of context. The context was a United States study, but inclusion in the article made no reference to the U.S. and was in the introduction, where it would be taken as a general (worldwide) claim.
* The edit came a day after a [http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24744138-5005961,00.html news report] here in Oz that gun murders are way down ("Only 11 per cent of murder victims were killed with a firearm, the lowest proportion on record and down four per cent on 2005-06.") and all murders are also down ("The statistics show homicide rates have fallen by a third in the last six years.")
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:26, 2 December 2008 (EST)