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::To Bolly's defense, Bugler was the first to use the term "clique" in this discussion. And I would gladly be discussing this with Mr. Schlafly if he would participate in this conversation.--'' '''[[user:JArneal|<font color="#006666" >JArneal</font>]]''' '' 21:07, 2 December 2008 (EST)
 
::To Bolly's defense, Bugler was the first to use the term "clique" in this discussion. And I would gladly be discussing this with Mr. Schlafly if he would participate in this conversation.--'' '''[[user:JArneal|<font color="#006666" >JArneal</font>]]''' '' 21:07, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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:::And it was Bolly who first used the term 'posse'. These are just convenient shorthands; but use the terms 'Team C' and Team P' if you consider it preferable. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 04:40, 3 December 2008 (EST)
    
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: Thank you Ed, for your participation in this conversation. The more sysops we have talking about this the better. And if someone who likes the current Obama article would propose a compromise, that would be appreciated, I'm sure. We need to start moving toward an ultimate compromise, or all of this is useless.--'' '''[[user:JArneal|<font color="#006666" >JArneal</font>]]''' '' 21:58, 2 December 2008 (EST)
 
: Thank you Ed, for your participation in this conversation. The more sysops we have talking about this the better. And if someone who likes the current Obama article would propose a compromise, that would be appreciated, I'm sure. We need to start moving toward an ultimate compromise, or all of this is useless.--'' '''[[user:JArneal|<font color="#006666" >JArneal</font>]]''' '' 21:58, 2 December 2008 (EST)
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:::Philip said: ''Unless Andy agrees with a compromise, this is going nowhere''. Now does he mean, 'unless Andy cuts this Gordian knot'? Well, he has. Andy has made his views quite clear, and these are to support the status quo '''which is a compromise''': none of the points that Philip rages against are presented as facts, just as evidence to be considered. Given Philip's impenitent and rebellious behaviour, one is tempted to interpret  ''Unless Andy agrees with a compromise, this is going nowhere'' as ''Unless Andy does as I say'', which is totally unacceptable. Andy is the Leader of Conservapedia, and his views should be respected as those of teh ultimate arbiter. For Philip to carry on and on and on with this sterile debate is damaging Conservapedia, and leads one to question his motives in doing so. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 04:40, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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