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In a way, TK's right though... pages like this never really accomplish anyhting. CP has a sort of "go argue on the talk page because you're easier to ignore there and we can 90/10 block you if you are persistent" policy. On some issues it really comes down to what Andy thinks and anyone can argue 'til they're blue in the face w/ out getting anything changed. I've washed my hands of the Barack Obama article because I realize it probably won't ever change.  --[[User:BenjaminS|Ben]] <sub>[[User Talk:BenjaminS|Talk]]</sub> 11:10, 3 December 2008 (EST)
 
In a way, TK's right though... pages like this never really accomplish anyhting. CP has a sort of "go argue on the talk page because you're easier to ignore there and we can 90/10 block you if you are persistent" policy. On some issues it really comes down to what Andy thinks and anyone can argue 'til they're blue in the face w/ out getting anything changed. I've washed my hands of the Barack Obama article because I realize it probably won't ever change.  --[[User:BenjaminS|Ben]] <sub>[[User Talk:BenjaminS|Talk]]</sub> 11:10, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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Mark my words, the only way Andy will change his mind is if Tim, Phil, and Cons all quit, and then he'll only change his mind when, after a few months, he realized that they were the only honest editors he had.-[[User:JudahB|JudahB]] 11:35, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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