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We generally take genocide to be the forced killing of a religious or ethnic group soley because of their religious or ethnic makeup. This would include either direct killing or conditions that are meant to lead to extermination. The Trail of Tears was a horrible event, but there is no evidence that extermination was sought. We also consider scope. The atrocities that we usually tie-in to genocide have a tendency to be far reaching more than isolated instances. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:17, 3 December 2008 (EST)
We generally take genocide to be the forced killing of a religious or ethnic group soley because of their religious or ethnic makeup. This would include either direct killing or conditions that are meant to lead to extermination. The Trail of Tears was a horrible event, but there is no evidence that extermination was sought. We also consider scope. The atrocities that we usually tie-in to genocide have a tendency to be far reaching more than isolated instances. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:17, 3 December 2008 (EST)
:Scope is not a qualifier, and this is one of a number of instances in a government pogrom against American aborigines because they were seen as an inferior race, or ''ethnicity''. One attack on a village does not qualify as genocide, perhaps, but a government putting into policy the decimation of another people is genocide. Especially if you take into effect government programs to "de-Indian" these people as well. To do otherwise is revisionism. -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 17:40, 3 December 2008 (EST)
:Scope is not a qualifier, and this is one of a number of instances in a government pogrom against American aborigines because they were seen as an inferior race, or ''ethnicity''. One attack on a village does not qualify as genocide, perhaps, but a government putting into policy the decimation of another people is genocide. Especially if you take into effect government programs to "de-Indian" these people as well. To do otherwise is revisionism. -[[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 17:40, 3 December 2008 (EST)
::So now we have adopted "cultural genocide"? That would pretty much encompass the bulk of human history across all continents and time periods. Should we make mention of the genocide of the Hittites in that the quick downfall of their empire led to the end of their culture? Treating people poorly is wrong, but it's not genocide. Trying to kill them en masse is. I would recommend that with you knowledge that you help fill out the article. There is nothing on the Supreme Court Decision and Jackson's words when he decided to ignore it. That is certainly a huge part of the story. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:57, 3 December 2008 (EST)
: From the Conservapedia definition of genocide: "Genocide involves the calculated targeting and killing of a specific ethnic group, '''or any huge deliberate killing of civilians carried out as a consequence of government policy.'''" How does this not meet the standard that this site already agrees upon? --[[User:BStowe|BStowe]] 17:50, 3 December 2008 (EST)
: From the Conservapedia definition of genocide: "Genocide involves the calculated targeting and killing of a specific ethnic group, '''or any huge deliberate killing of civilians carried out as a consequence of government policy.'''" How does this not meet the standard that this site already agrees upon? --[[User:BStowe|BStowe]] 17:50, 3 December 2008 (EST)