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→‎Reversion of Ed Poor's edit: You are arguing against your own source; please produce the logic and evidence
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:::: Philip, you're arguing against logic.  The number of assaults went up by about 50%.  Kidnappings almost doubled.  When adjusted for age, violent crime went up across the board when gun control is imposed.  Deny it all you like, as you have free will to do so.  But 99% of gun purchases and uses are for defensive purposes, and that inevitably means that violent crime goes up when gun control is imposed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:29, 3 December 2008 (EST)
 
:::: Philip, you're arguing against logic.  The number of assaults went up by about 50%.  Kidnappings almost doubled.  When adjusted for age, violent crime went up across the board when gun control is imposed.  Deny it all you like, as you have free will to do so.  But 99% of gun purchases and uses are for defensive purposes, and that inevitably means that violent crime goes up when gun control is imposed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:29, 3 December 2008 (EST)
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::::: If I'm arguing against logic, then perhaps you'd be so kind as to explain the logic in a formal way, because you are arguing against the facts in your own reference!  And while you're at it, please also produce the following:
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:::::* Figures for your claim that "When adjusted for age, violent crime went up across the board...", because the reference doesn't mention it.
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:::::* Evidence that, in Australia, "99% of gun purchases and uses are[/were] for defensive purposes", because I'd be quite sure that was simply not true.
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::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:49, 3 December 2008 (EST)
    
== Gun control debate vs. greater emphasis on changing violent thinking of society ==
 
== Gun control debate vs. greater emphasis on changing violent thinking of society ==
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