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: It's mainly Aschlafly that pursued this.  Many others, including me, disagreed with that course.  That was simply the first of several mistakes you made, and the others relate to you having almost no idea of what creationists believe.  Do you support the concept of criticising an idea without knowing much about it?  Because that is what you are doing.  Creationists ''accept'' speciation.  They also ''accept'' beneficial mutations.  The one that they ''don't'' accept is mutations adding information, because it is ''not'' observed (apart from some questionable claims, such as this one of Lenski's).  I won't ask for examples simply because I've been down this road before, of having supposed examples provided, only to have them not stack up when investigated.  When Richard Dawkins was asked for examples, ''he was unable to supply any''.  And why do you think Lenski's research was cited as answering creationist criticisms?  If creationist criticism has been answered so much before, so that this is nothing new, then why make a deal about it as though it ''is'' something new?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:44, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

: It's mainly Aschlafly that pursued this.  Many others, including me, disagreed with that course.  That was simply the first of several mistakes you made, and the others relate to you having almost no idea of what creationists believe.  Do you support the concept of criticising an idea without knowing much about it?  Because that is what you are doing.  Creationists ''accept'' speciation.  They also ''accept'' beneficial mutations.  The one that they ''don't'' accept is mutations adding information, because it is ''not'' observed (apart from some questionable claims, such as this one of Lenski's).  I won't ask for examples simply because I've been down this road before, of having supposed examples provided, only to have them not stack up when investigated.  When Richard Dawkins was asked for examples, ''he was unable to supply any''.  And why do you think Lenski's research was cited as answering creationist criticisms?  If creationist criticism has been answered so much before, so that this is nothing new, then why make a deal about it as though it ''is'' something new?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:44, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

:"When Richard Dawkins was asked for examples, ''he was unable to supply any''"—Oh, give me a break. Do you honestly expect someone to be able to come up with such information on the spot? --_{[[Special:Contributions/AutoFire|<font color= 'black' face= 'OCR A Extended'>trans</font>]]}[[User:AutoFire|<font color= 'red' face= 'OCR A Extended'>Resident Transfan</font>]]^{[[User Talk:AutoFire|<font color= 'black' face= 'OCR A Extended'>form!</font>]]} 23:09, 2 July 2008 (EDT)

:"When Richard Dawkins was asked for examples, ''he was unable to supply any''"—Oh, give me a break. Do you honestly expect someone to be able to come up with such information on the spot? --_{[[Special:Contributions/AutoFire|<font color= 'black' face= 'OCR A Extended'>trans</font>]]}[[User:AutoFire|<font color= 'red' face= 'OCR A Extended'>Resident Transfan</font>]]^{[[User Talk:AutoFire|<font color= 'black' face= 'OCR A Extended'>form!</font>]]} 23:09, 2 July 2008 (EDT)