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switzerland is a bad example about gun control because every man within a certain age is a member of the swiss army reserve and must have his service weapon at home with him. [http://www.gunownersofvermont.org/swiss_army.html Here] [[User:Markr|Markr]] 18:09, 4 December 2008 (EST)
switzerland is a bad example about gun control because every man within a certain age is a member of the swiss army reserve and must have his service weapon at home with him. [http://www.gunownersofvermont.org/swiss_army.html Here] [[User:Markr|Markr]] 18:09, 4 December 2008 (EST)
::::Markr, does the Swiss Army Reserve use non-deadly water rifles? :) On a more serious note, it would be interesting to know what percentage of the Swiss have handguns and compare that relative to other European nations. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 18:25, 4 December 2008 (EST)
::::Markr, does the Swiss Army Reserve use non-deadly water rifles? :) On a more serious note, it would be interesting to know what percentage of the Swiss have handguns and compare that relative to other European nations. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 18:25, 4 December 2008 (EST)
::::: what I am trying to convey is that the swiss statistics do not fairly compare with countries where gun ownership is a choice. I would also expect variences in accidents because of the military training they receive. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 19:44, 4 December 2008 (EST)