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: You should learn quickly that we do not stand for liberal censorship of facts at CP.  His pandering is an ongoing trend, not speculation. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 18:22, 9 December 2008 (EST)
 
: You should learn quickly that we do not stand for liberal censorship of facts at CP.  His pandering is an ongoing trend, not speculation. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 18:22, 9 December 2008 (EST)
 
::Rod Weathers, with posts like that you might as well get used to parody accusations.  Your post was very clichéd - and the cliché was not applicable in any case – and did not actually respond to the objection.  The phrase in question most definitely ''is'' speculative, as it posits a motive that has not been disclosed, and actually uses the modifier “likely”.  Bishop quite rightly called for removing the speculation by either deleting the phrase or substantiating it.  “It’s true, but don’t say it” is censorship.  “If it’s true, back it up” is not.[[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 18:57, 9 December 2008 (EST)
 
::Rod Weathers, with posts like that you might as well get used to parody accusations.  Your post was very clichéd - and the cliché was not applicable in any case – and did not actually respond to the objection.  The phrase in question most definitely ''is'' speculative, as it posits a motive that has not been disclosed, and actually uses the modifier “likely”.  Bishop quite rightly called for removing the speculation by either deleting the phrase or substantiating it.  “It’s true, but don’t say it” is censorship.  “If it’s true, back it up” is not.[[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 18:57, 9 December 2008 (EST)
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::: Early on, Obama ran an anti-patriotic campaign that depended heavily on big donations from moveon.org anti-war types.  During that stage, Obama did not wear the flag lapel pin.  Later, Obama "changed" in what was obviously pandering to a broader electorate he was attempting to attract.  No one seriously disputes this, and a citation to a liberal newspaper that endorsed Obama is not necessary to support it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:09, 9 December 2008 (EST)
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