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:::To avoid any contention this may cause, could either of you provide citings?  That way we could be sure and add them to the article, rather than just asserting either way. --[[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 21:46, 10 December 2008 (EST)
 
:::To avoid any contention this may cause, could either of you provide citings?  That way we could be sure and add them to the article, rather than just asserting either way. --[[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 21:46, 10 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::Andy, can I ask how you're defining "authentic"?  I know that the Catholic Church views this passage as canonical.  And Liam, I'll try to find and post some of what I've been reading, but I'll do that tomorrow, as it is past my bedtime....--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::Andy, can I ask how you're defining "authentic"?  I know that the Catholic Church views this passage as canonical.  And Liam, I'll try to find and post some of what I've been reading, but I'll do that tomorrow, as it is past my bedtime....--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:02, 10 December 2008 (EST)
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::::Liam, numerous citations are in this entry and in the Essay in the footnote demonstrating the passage is not authentic, and by "authentic" I mean the obvious: it was not part of the Gospel as written by John and was inserted 100 years or more after that Gospel was completed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:23, 10 December 2008 (EST)
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