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::::: what I am trying to convey is that the swiss statistics do not fairly compare with countries where gun ownership is a choice. I would also expect variences in accidents because of the military training they receive. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 19:44, 4 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::: what I am trying to convey is that the swiss statistics do not fairly compare with countries where gun ownership is a choice. I would also expect variences in accidents because of the military training they receive. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 19:44, 4 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::::Whilst all males have guns in Switzerland, you can't buy ammunition for them. Same with the officers handguns. They all have guns and a sealed box of ammunition which is regularly inspected to ensure that they have not been opened. For any gun other than your military weapon you have to go through tight licensing. [[User:BrianF|BrianF]] 19:51, 4 December 2008 (EST)
 
::::::Whilst all males have guns in Switzerland, you can't buy ammunition for them. Same with the officers handguns. They all have guns and a sealed box of ammunition which is regularly inspected to ensure that they have not been opened. For any gun other than your military weapon you have to go through tight licensing. [[User:BrianF|BrianF]] 19:51, 4 December 2008 (EST)
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== Riddle me this... ==
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I read the above discussion ("Reversion of Ed Poor's edit") with interest.  I then looked at the section in the article headed "Gun control outside the USA" which regrettably makes no reference to Australia.  I then went and looked at the murder rates and rates of gun related death in the US and Australia.
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What struck me was that there is a huge difference between the two countries which does not appear to be explained by anything contained within the article.
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The homicide rates are: US: 5.7 per 100,000; Australia: 1.28 per 100,000.
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The firearm-related homicide rates are: US: 3.72 per 100,000; Australia: 0.44 per 100,000.
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It appears from those figures that firearms have a huge input into the high murder rate in the US.  About 2/3rds of homicides in the US are by gun.  Only about 1/3rd of homicides in Australia are by gun.  And why are the homicide rates so different?
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I suggest that gun control in Australia does have the effect of lowering the homicide rate.  However, I suggest that the figures indicate that it is not the only factor.  But what else is at work?
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More importantly, the article as it stands is a piece of advocacy against gun control.  Any chance of an encyclopedic article?  --[[User:TCochrane|TCochrane]] 18:12, 11 December 2008 (EST)
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