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:This is an undeniable fact.  In 2003, so-called liberals were ''the only'' group who (a) identified themselves as liberals and (b) opposed Iraqi human rights and democracy.  No one else shared thier views.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:37, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

:This is an undeniable fact.  In 2003, so-called liberals were ''the only'' group who (a) identified themselves as liberals and (b) opposed Iraqi human rights and democracy.  No one else shared thier views.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 20:37, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

::Rob, get your head out of the sand.  Every American is in favor of Democracy, for the love of God, get that into your head.  Liberals, like me, were opposed to the war because it was poorly planned, poorly committed, we knew it'd be poorly executed, and it was inconsistent with previous stated U.S. policy (see the [[Powell Doctrine]] which I'm sure isn't up yet, since it's a liberal topic).  We knew it would end in a quagmire.  Liberals would line up 'cross the board in support of spreading democracy if we thought it would be easy in and easy out, but we weren't deluded into thinking it was.  You were.

::Rob, get your head out of the sand.  Every American is in favor of Democracy, for the love of God, get that into your head.  Liberals, like me, were opposed to the war because it was poorly planned, poorly committed, we knew it'd be poorly executed, and it was inconsistent with previous stated U.S. policy (see the [[Powell Doctrine]] which I'm sure isn't up yet, since it's a liberal topic).  We knew it would end in a quagmire.  Liberals would line up 'cross the board in support of spreading democracy if we thought it would be easy in and easy out, but we weren't deluded into thinking it was.  You were.

:: Let's not forget the "Torture Memo," [[user:Order].  I submit one final question to you, [[user:RobS| comrade]]: based on what we now know about how the war should have been executed, should have been planned, what the troops should have gotten before the war in the way of training and armor...

:: Let's not forget the "Torture Memo," [[user:Order].  I submit one final question to you, [[user:RobS| comrade]]: based on what we now know about how the war should have been executed, should have been planned, what the troops should have gotten before the war in the way of training and armor...

:: ...who really supports the troops?  Hint: '''not''' the Bush administration.-[[User:AmesG|AmesG]] 20:57, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

:: ...who really supports the troops?  Hint: '''not''' the Bush administration.-[[User:AmesG|AmesG]] 20:57, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

==Liberals in europe ==

==Liberals in europe ==

I saw that you changed that liberal in europe from "center to right wing" to "so-called center and right wing". Tell us what is "so-called" center and right wing about the liberal parties in Germany, austria or the VVD in the Netherlands? They are centre or right wig.[[Order]]

I saw that you changed that liberal in europe from "center to right wing" to "so-called center and right wing". Tell us what is "so-called" center and right wing about the liberal parties in Germany, austria or the VVD in the Netherlands? They are centre or right wig.[[Order]]