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:: Let's not forget the "Torture Memo," [[user:Order].  I submit one final question to you, [[user:RobS| comrade]]: based on what we now know about how the war should have been executed, should have been planned, what the troops should have gotten before the war in the way of training and armor...

:: Let's not forget the "Torture Memo," [[user:Order].  I submit one final question to you, [[user:RobS| comrade]]: based on what we now know about how the war should have been executed, should have been planned, what the troops should have gotten before the war in the way of training and armor...

:: ...who really supports the troops?  Hint: '''not''' the Bush administration.-[[User:AmesG|AmesG]] 20:57, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

:: ...who really supports the troops?  Hint: '''not''' the Bush administration.-[[User:AmesG|AmesG]] 20:57, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

:::AmesG: So your psychic powers told you it was poorly planned, etc., and that's why you went about disrupting public support for the War.  The Powell Doctrine is a restatement of Clausewitz, adding "overwhelming use of force", etc.  But (a) the Powell Doctrine only referes to conventional type Cold War conflicts with large standing miltiary establishment, fixed targets, etc, and does not address the problems of '''modern 21st century warfare'''.  Further, the business about "exit strategy" was always controversial, because it only applies to what Clausewitz refers to as "A War of Limited Aims".

:::AmesG: So your psychic powers told you it was poorly planned, etc., and that's why you went about disrupting public support for the War.  The Powell Doctrine is a restatement of Clausewitz, adding "overwhelming use of force", etc.  But (a) the Powell Doctrine only referes to conventional type Cold War conflicts with large standing miltiary establishment, fixed targets, etc, and does not address the problems of '''modern 21st century warfare'''.  Further, the business about "exit strategy" was always controversial, because it only applies to what Clausewitz refers to as "A War of Limited Aims".[http://www.clausewitz.com/CWZHOME/VomKriege2/BK8ch05.html]

:::Order: That discussion is already in the mainspace at [[Abu Ghraib]].  Arundati Roy, ''et al'', are self identified comrades with murderers and [[terrorist]]s.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 21:35, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

:::Order: That discussion is already in the mainspace at [[Abu Ghraib]].  Arundati Roy, ''et al'', are self identified comrades with murderers and [[terrorist]]s.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 21:35, 22 March 2007 (EDT)