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::::: I support what TCochrane has said above.  He's described the Australian situation more accurately than has Aschlafly.  Including the reference to Australia being "far more rural" than the U.S.  Australia is actually known as being one of the most urbanised countries in the world.  Andy needs to support ''his'' claims, because they are either wrong or very selective.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:39, 29 December 2008 (EST)

::::: I support what TCochrane has said above.  He's described the Australian situation more accurately than has Aschlafly.  Including the reference to Australia being "far more rural" than the U.S.  Australia is actually known as being one of the most urbanised countries in the world.  Andy needs to support ''his'' claims, because they are either wrong or very selective.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:39, 29 December 2008 (EST)

*So, I guess we need a new rule about selective reverts by Administrators (and others) who insist on [[last wordism]], and making others explain things to their own highly selective, world view sensibilities.  Good to know, and easily accomplished. This isn't Wikipedia, and never will be. Thank God. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]^{[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]]} 18:45, 29 December 2008 (EST)

:::::: I've changed the paragraph about Australia to make it more accurate, per above discussion.  I've retained a reference to Australia being different insofar as its drug culture is concerned, as it's true that the drug situation is different, and could well be a factor. I didn't retain the reference to Australia always having a lower homicide rate, as there was no reference supporting it, and because this is possibly because Australia has long had a lower gun-ownership rate anyway. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:50, 29 December 2008 (EST)

==Loss of the frontier spirit to urban "values" ==

==Loss of the frontier spirit to urban "values" ==