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:::I believe that Darwin himself considered Aborigines as only a little more evolved than the apes, and evolutionary thinking along this line led to Aborigines being shot to become specimens of the missing link in museums.  It wasn't just a few "very backward racists", it was the general consensus a century or so ago.
 
:::I believe that Darwin himself considered Aborigines as only a little more evolved than the apes, and evolutionary thinking along this line led to Aborigines being shot to become specimens of the missing link in museums.  It wasn't just a few "very backward racists", it was the general consensus a century or so ago.
 
:::[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:43, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
 
:::[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:43, 12 June 2007 (EDT)
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== How the aborigines arrived ==
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I was interested to see the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Australian_Aborigines&diff=599663&oldid=576142 latest edit], about how Aborigines arrived in Australia.  It's an interesting and valid point, but I have some concerns with the way it's written.
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There's two main views on things like this: the evolutionary view and the creationary (biblical) view.  I comment below on various statements from the edit, including how they fit (or not) each view:
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* "''The only realistic case is that they came over the sea from Indonesia...''":  I'd question whether it's the ''only'' realistic view, as long as you are including PNG in that.  The route with the shortest individual water crossings is probably via PNG.
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* "''...however, this would mean that they had vastly superior boat building skills compared to the rest of the world at that time...''":  What time?  From a creationary view, we are talking about a very few thousand years ago.  From an evolutionary view we are talking 40,000 to 60,000 years ago.  From a creationary view, the claim that they must have had better skills that "the rest of the world" is probably incorrect.  From a creationary view, they were descended from Noah, who'd built a huge ocean-going vessel.
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* "''...(as strong boats would be needed to ferry whole families across the rough sea around Australia).''":  I believe I'm right in saying that people can easily cross from PNG to Australia (Cape Yorke Peninsula) via various smaller islands via canoe.  I don't know about the other water crossings that would be involved (to get to PNG).
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* "''Also, it would appear that, once they reached Australia, they immediately forgot their theoretical boat building skills and never went far out to sea again.''":  Perhaps not "immediately", but otherwise that is entirely feasible.  Forgetting skills that you don't use is quite common.  Although the statement would be correct, as a debating point in the context of how they got here, I think it's largely irrelevant.  Keep in mind also that for some there was a further crossing to Tasmania, and that is less feasible in a canoe.
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:39, 2 January 2009 (EST)
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