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: No, I don't think so.  Most of the recommendations are quite [[liberal]] and harmful, such as urging someone in crisis to become ''more'' self-centered.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:40, 3 January 2009 (EST)
 
: No, I don't think so.  Most of the recommendations are quite [[liberal]] and harmful, such as urging someone in crisis to become ''more'' self-centered.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:40, 3 January 2009 (EST)
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:: Who wants to bet that if I had attributed this to Focus on the Family Andy would have had no problem with it? Andy with all due respect, this type of rant is why people think that this site is a joke. It would be OK if you could actually back it up or had substantive arguments but if it smells and looks like a rant...--[[User:Lynus|Lynus]] 23:03, 3 January 2009 (EST)
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::True, which also seems directly contradictory to the ones I mentioned from the article. Perhaps incorporating those into the essay separately would be a good solution? Certainly familial involvement is helpful. [[User:Sulli|Sulli]] 00:02, 4 January 2009 (EST)
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:: Who wants to bet that if I had attributed this to Focus on the Family Andy would have had no problem with it? Andy with all due
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respect, this type of rant is why people think that this site is a joke. It would be OK if you could actually back it up or had substantive arguments but if it smells and looks like a rant...--[[User:Lynus|Lynus]] 23:03, 3 January 2009 (EST)
    
::: The rant is yours, not mine.  My criticisms are well supported.  Don't insult Focus on the Family by implying they would propose such an absurd and hurtful set of recommendations.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:34, 3 January 2009 (EST)
 
::: The rant is yours, not mine.  My criticisms are well supported.  Don't insult Focus on the Family by implying they would propose such an absurd and hurtful set of recommendations.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:34, 3 January 2009 (EST)
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