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Talk:Scientific controversy over the cause of AIDS (view source)
Revision as of 20:17, January 7, 2009
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:::He's attempting to prove that high-dose prednisone and other glucocorticoids cause AIDS, which means that it could not be transmitted between sexual partners, blood transfusions, drug use, etc; these are just behaviors that led to the administration of the aforementioned medications. I think this is an interesting avenue to at least examine, though as I said before, a difficult position to find credible evidence for. [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|<sub>Discussion</sub>]] 14:32, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:::He's attempting to prove that high-dose prednisone and other glucocorticoids cause AIDS, which means that it could not be transmitted between sexual partners, blood transfusions, drug use, etc; these are just behaviors that led to the administration of the aforementioned medications. I think this is an interesting avenue to at least examine, though as I said before, a difficult position to find credible evidence for. [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|<sub>Discussion</sub>]] 14:32, 7 January 2009 (EST)
--[[User:RickD|RickD]] 14:58, 7 January 2009 (EST)==Jumping off point==
--[[User:RickD|RickD]] 14:58, 7 January 2009 (EST)
==Jumping off point==
*The former Virgina Tech professor Henry H. Bauer recently wrote the book [http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Persistence-Failings-AIDS-Theory/dp/0786430486 ''The Origin, Persistence and Failings of HIV/AIDS Theory''] (2007). I read through it and it's definitely a sourced, pro-intellectual book. Anyway, I recommend it as a respectable place to start. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 14:36, 7 January 2009 (EST)
*The former Virgina Tech professor Henry H. Bauer recently wrote the book [http://www.amazon.com/Origin-Persistence-Failings-AIDS-Theory/dp/0786430486 ''The Origin, Persistence and Failings of HIV/AIDS Theory''] (2007). I read through it and it's definitely a sourced, pro-intellectual book. Anyway, I recommend it as a respectable place to start. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 14:36, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:The only problem is that Bauer is trained as an electrochemist and was never formally trained in the biological sciences to understand immunobiology, biochemistry nor basic virology and pathology. It would be much better to find a person with a biological sciences background due to the credibility.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 14:44, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:The only problem is that Bauer is trained as an electrochemist and was never formally trained in the biological sciences to understand immunobiology, biochemistry nor basic virology and pathology. It would be much better to find a person with a biological sciences background due to the credibility.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 14:44, 7 January 2009 (EST)
::::::Well, [[Einstein]] had very little education in his topic of interest. Only an undergraduate degree. Einstein is a good case for how too much respect for hierarcies and bureacratic/instituational norms can cloud our judgements. Like many trained Ph.D., Bauer is compotent enough to evaluate this sort of work. It's a logical fallacy (ad hominem) to say that is not.--[[User:RickD|RickD]] 15:06, 7 January 2009 (EST)
::::::Well, [[Einstein]] had very little education in his topic of interest. Only an undergraduate degree. Einstein is a good case for how too much respect for hierarcies and bureacratic/instituational norms can cloud our judgements. Like many trained Ph.D., Bauer is compotent enough to evaluate this sort of work. It's a logical fallacy (ad hominem) to say that is not.--[[User:RickD|RickD]] 15:06, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:::::::Einstein studied physics, regardless of what degree he attained. He won a nobel prize for the photoelectric effect, and achieved a doctor's degree in 1905 (according to the Conservapedia Einstein article). It's not ad hominem to state that the man's speciality has nothing to do with AIDS, nor is it a logical fallacy. Oh, and you didn't answer my question.[[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|<sub>Discussion</s ub>]] 15:13, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:::::::Einstein studied physics, regardless of what degree he attained. He won a nobel prize for the photoelectric effect, and achieved a doctor's degree in 1905 (according to the Conservapedia Einstein article). It's not ad hominem to state that the man's speciality has nothing to do with AIDS, nor is it a logical fallacy. Oh, and you didn't answer my question.[[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|<sub>Discussion</s ub>]] 15:13, 7 January 2009 (EST)
:::::::::Einstein took a few physics courses. Einstein published some papers, which was well reviewed by some with Ph.D.'s (it was also controversial and has had many Ph.D's who have written negative things about it). Bauer took a few chemistry courses. Bauer published a book, which has been well reviewed by other Ph.D's. Don't see the difference in qualifications or process. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 15:17, 7 January 2009 (EST)