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:::::: Your point about the "past" is equally confused.  "One's past" does not merely refer to time before the present.  We're being substantive here and you're relying on a trivial usage that you found.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:16, 8 January 2009 (EST)
 
:::::: Your point about the "past" is equally confused.  "One's past" does not merely refer to time before the present.  We're being substantive here and you're relying on a trivial usage that you found.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:16, 8 January 2009 (EST)
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::::I went and loaded this page in Chrome, Firefox, and Internet Explorer and all 3 showed popup boxes when the mouse hovered over Luke 1:3 and right next to that text, still within the box are the letters ASV which stands for American Standard Version which you can see for yourself if you click "more" at the bottom of the box which takes you to Biblelogos. On the righthand side is the bible version that is being used which is the ASV but in the page boxes it says they refer to different versions.
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::::My point in the past is actually coming from your prior comments concerning the usage of "past". You came up with a possible hypothesis that states, "I'm reluctant to expressly draw conclusions but it casts doubt on whether one's personal past exists in any meaningful way.  The atheistic reliance on a personal past seems incorrect in light of this information." This implies that you mean "past" as in someones history which is what I referred to. The passages I brought up referred to "before the present" and these meanings are still in use today and I would argue are the primary meaning of the term today. Therefore they are not trivial and you are incorrect to say that the Bible uses versions of "past" that are no longer used today. I gave you dictionary links from websites you personally have cited and both show the "before the present" meaning of "past"--[[User:Lynus|Lynus]] 23:44, 8 January 2009 (EST)
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