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As it is, I might get the ball rolling by making two observations. First, the Gospels don’t mention a lot of things which existed then, for example orangutans. Do you want to make a point about the fact that Jesus did not speak about orangutans?  
 
As it is, I might get the ball rolling by making two observations. First, the Gospels don’t mention a lot of things which existed then, for example orangutans. Do you want to make a point about the fact that Jesus did not speak about orangutans?  
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Secondly, while Jesus and Gospel writers might not have specifically referred to the “past”, the whole of the Old AND New Testament are absolutely FULL of matters having to do with the past, with tradition, and with privileges and  obligations laid down by God. It is surprising to find writers hand-waving about the absence of the past, when in fact it would be impossible to find any peoples more completely absorbed and beholden to “the past” then the Jews, now and three thousand years ago. There are references to matters relating to the past on every page of the Gospels. For example, Jesus notes that people did not listen to the Prophets who came before him. He says of his teaching which forbids summary divorce that the divorce laws which were then binding had not been such “from the beginning”, a direct reference to “the past”. The Gospel writers traced Jesus’ ancestry to David, generation by generation. There are references to Elijah, and the fact that some people were saying that Jesus was “Elijah come again”. Isn’t that a direct reference to events which occurred in the past and the prophet who lived then? The list is endless. Please do us all a favour and explain yourself. (Favour spelt the Australian way… Chuckle…) [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:22, 9 January 2009 (EST)
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Secondly, while Jesus and Gospel writers might not have specifically referred to the “past”, the whole of the Old AND New Testament are absolutely FULL of matters having to do with the past, with tradition, and with privileges and  obligations laid down by God. It is surprising to find writers hand-waving about the absence of the past, when in fact it would be impossible to find any peoples more completely absorbed and beholden to “the past” then the Jews, now and three thousand years ago. There are references to matters relating to the past on every page of the Gospels. For example, Jesus notes that people did not listen to the Prophets who came before him. He says of his teaching which forbids summary divorce that the divorce laws which were then binding had not been such “from the beginning”, a direct reference to “the past”. The Gospel writers traced Jesus’ ancestry to David, generation by generation. There are references to Elijah, and the fact that some people were saying that Jesus was “Elijah come again”. Isn’t that a direct reference to events which occurred in the past and the prophet who lived then? The list is endless. Please do us all a favour and explain yourself. (Favour spelt the Australian way… Chuckle…) [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:26, 9 January 2009 (EST)
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