nsJudgesRO, nsJudgesRW, nsJudges_talkRO, nsJudges_talkRW
461
edits
Changes
Jump to navigation
Jump to search
Line 106:
Line 106: + +
→Claims of "Self-Replicating" Chemicals
::::: But we are talking here about the origin of life, so if the materials that he uses are ones that only occur ''as the result of living things'', then they do not occur "naturally", in the sense of being in existence before life started. Glucose is the product of living things (which I would argue requires a designer). Similarly, I believe that both RNA and RNA replicase do not occur "naturally" (without the existence of living things). Is this correct?
::::: But we are talking here about the origin of life, so if the materials that he uses are ones that only occur ''as the result of living things'', then they do not occur "naturally", in the sense of being in existence before life started. Glucose is the product of living things (which I would argue requires a designer). Similarly, I believe that both RNA and RNA replicase do not occur "naturally" (without the existence of living things). Is this correct?
::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:01, 14 January 2009 (EST)
::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:01, 14 January 2009 (EST)
Glucose does require life to make it outside of the lab. RNA does occur naturally as well as RNA replicase, both molecules are not and should not be considered life (some prions are nothing more than a small strand of RNA with replicase or reverse transcriptase contained in a glob of lipids, would not be considered a protocell). DNA does occur outside of the cell as well, if the conditions are right (very rare), and is much more stable than RNA. However, it is a huge leap from these molecules to life. The whole reason why self replication and self formation of these molecules is possible is that the sum has a more stable energy state than the parts. When the parts of these molecules are found in solution at a neutral pH they react (due to the [[zwitterion]]ic forms of the bases). The chemistry involved for this is not difficult, if you would like I can go into further detail.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 19:58, 14 January 2009 (EST)