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:::::::::: Your claim that YECs and materialists are "completely incompatible" is illogical, and you haven't explained the incompatibility.  As I said (and you didn't address), belief in an occasional divine intervention does not necessarily negate one's adherence to materialism otherwise.  [[Thomas the Apostle]], for example, believed in [[Jesus]] based on materialism, not despite it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:46, 14 January 2009 (EST)
 
:::::::::: Your claim that YECs and materialists are "completely incompatible" is illogical, and you haven't explained the incompatibility.  As I said (and you didn't address), belief in an occasional divine intervention does not necessarily negate one's adherence to materialism otherwise.  [[Thomas the Apostle]], for example, believed in [[Jesus]] based on materialism, not despite it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:46, 14 January 2009 (EST)
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::::::::::::Andy, the incompatibly has been explained by three seperate editors.  Pick one explanation, they all say pretty much the same thing, which just to make it easy to find is this:  YEC is the explicit presupposition that a supernatural Creator supernaturally created the universe and told us how He did it by supernaturally inspiring human authors.  Materialism is the explicit presupposition that nothing supernatural exists. [[User:LowKey|LowKey]] 10:07, 15 January 2009 (EST)
 
::::::::::: Regarding abortions, I think we are talking past each other a little.  I agree that some are ''personally'' "against" abortions, in that they would not choose it themselves, but would not impose that on others, so might support taxpayer-funding of it.  This is probably what you meant.  I was talking about those (such as me) who are genuinely ''opposed'' to abortions, as in believing abortions to be wrong.
 
::::::::::: Regarding abortions, I think we are talking past each other a little.  I agree that some are ''personally'' "against" abortions, in that they would not choose it themselves, but would not impose that on others, so might support taxpayer-funding of it.  This is probably what you meant.  I was talking about those (such as me) who are genuinely ''opposed'' to abortions, as in believing abortions to be wrong.
 
::::::::::: I did explain the incompatibility: materialists reject the supernatural, YECs require it.  You can't reject the supernatural and simultaneously believe that supernatural interventions occur.  Thomas accepted that the risen Christ was really Jesus based on ''physical evidence'', not a materialistic worldview.  They are not the same thing.  And I did address that, in my post below replying to the comments that I though were made by RodWeathers.  Could you now address the question that I mistakenly put to him, about the polls asking people if they were YECs.
 
::::::::::: I did explain the incompatibility: materialists reject the supernatural, YECs require it.  You can't reject the supernatural and simultaneously believe that supernatural interventions occur.  Thomas accepted that the risen Christ was really Jesus based on ''physical evidence'', not a materialistic worldview.  They are not the same thing.  And I did address that, in my post below replying to the comments that I though were made by RodWeathers.  Could you now address the question that I mistakenly put to him, about the polls asking people if they were YECs.
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