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== Historical view of abortion ==
 
== Historical view of abortion ==
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Abortion has been an issue for a long while, though historians and anthropoligists rarely write about it.  Yet, if abortion became illegal in every country on Earth, with the most severe, harshest penalties imaginable, abortions would still happen.  Women who really didn't want to carry to term would find a way.  Medically trained people would perform black market sorts of abortions here and there.  It is a human issue, an emotional issue.  Our grandmothers knew this and their grandmothers.  Today's modern medicine allows safe (for the mother) abortion in most cases.  Today's law proposes that the decision might not reside in the realm of the mother, but could be mandated, to the benefit of society.  Let us not fool ourselves, abortion might be illegal but abortion happens anyway.  Who can legally try a woman for falling down stairs or falling against the edge of a table?  The article does not, at this time, confront the real reasons why abortion is an issue (my opinion). [[User:Terryeo|Terryeo]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (EDT)
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Abortion has been an issue for a long while, though historians and anthropologists rarely write about it.  Yet, if abortion became illegal in every country on Earth, with the most severe, harshest penalties imaginable, abortions would still happen.  Women who really didn't want to carry to term would find a way.  Medically trained people would perform black market sorts of abortions here and there.  It is a human issue, an emotional issue.  Our grandmothers knew this and their grandmothers.  Today's modern medicine allows safe (for the mother) abortion in most cases.  Today's law proposes that the decision might not reside in the realm of the mother, but could be mandated, to the benefit of society.  Let us not fool ourselves, abortion might be illegal but abortion happens anyway.  Who can legally try a woman for falling down stairs or falling against the edge of a table?  The article does not, at this time, confront the real reasons why abortion is an issue (my opinion). [[User:Terryeo|Terryeo]] 13:32, 19 March 2007 (EDT)
    
To add to the above, in Thailand, procuring an illegal abortion is subject to the death penalty.  Yet the midwives there are the ones mothers turn to for this service, the same people they turn to to deliver their babies safely.  And much as the the ultra right may hate the idea, midwives throughout the ages have always carried out this function, unknown to (or ignored by) males. Even with legal terminations, girls still go to their mothers, not to their fathers, and there is many a Pro-lifer who has no idea what his mother's, wife's, sisters' and daughters' reproductive history is.  KT
 
To add to the above, in Thailand, procuring an illegal abortion is subject to the death penalty.  Yet the midwives there are the ones mothers turn to for this service, the same people they turn to to deliver their babies safely.  And much as the the ultra right may hate the idea, midwives throughout the ages have always carried out this function, unknown to (or ignored by) males. Even with legal terminations, girls still go to their mothers, not to their fathers, and there is many a Pro-lifer who has no idea what his mother's, wife's, sisters' and daughters' reproductive history is.  KT
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: Well, fine, burglary and drugs and prostitution and everything else one can imagine will always exist too, no matter how harsh the penalties.  Here in the U.S. there is an abortion industry that owns one of the two major political parties (the Democrats), and most women who have an abortion have no idea that they are increasing their risk of breast cancer and future premature birth.  The abortion industry does everything it can to prevent that information reaching their potential customers.  The tobacco industry did the same thing in the 1940s and 1950s and 1960s.  The tobacco industry even got the American Medical Association (AMA) to help it cover up how smoking causes cancer.  History repeats itself with abortion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:45, 23 March 2007 (EDT)
    
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==Portugal==
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