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::I'll chime in re the claim that the pagans had only farcical, bawdy, dirty type humor.  I'm only familiar with 2 Aristophanes plays, ''Lysistrata'' and ''The Clouds''.  ''Lysistrata'' does have a bawdy premise - the women of Greece conspire to not go to bed with their husbands until they end their war - but the play's point was political, not sexual, and it spoke on a real contemporary topic (the Peloponessian War) and addressed leading politicians by name.  ''Clouds'' is a purely intellectual satire, making fun of the sophists in general and Socrates in particular.  (Soc. was not actually a sophist but was apparently identified with them.)  There are also a few poop jokes thrown in there, but that's no different from a lot of intellectual comedy today: I think of ''Little Miss Sunshine,'' that had jokes about Proust and Nietzshe, but also jokes about the dirty old grandfather character.   

::I'll chime in re the claim that the pagans had only farcical, bawdy, dirty type humor.  I'm only familiar with 2 Aristophanes plays, ''Lysistrata'' and ''The Clouds''.  ''Lysistrata'' does have a bawdy premise - the women of Greece conspire to not go to bed with their husbands until they end their war - but the play's point was political, not sexual, and it spoke on a real contemporary topic (the Peloponessian War) and addressed leading politicians by name.  ''Clouds'' is a purely intellectual satire, making fun of the sophists in general and Socrates in particular.  (Soc. was not actually a sophist but was apparently identified with them.)  There are also a few poop jokes thrown in there, but that's no different from a lot of intellectual comedy today: I think of ''Little Miss Sunshine,'' that had jokes about Proust and Nietzshe, but also jokes about the dirty old grandfather character.   

::My favorite thing about ''Clouds'' is that the main butt of the jokes, Socrates, was ''actually there in the audience'' watching it.  The intro to my copy says that at the performance, the mask for the Socrates actor was such a good caricature, they had Socrates himself stand up so the audience could applaud the mask maker.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 20:36, 10 February 2009 (EST)

::My favorite thing about ''Clouds'' is that the main butt of the jokes, Socrates, was ''actually there in the audience'' watching it.  The intro to my copy says that at the performance, the mask for the Socrates actor was such a good caricature, they had Socrates himself stand up so the audience could applaud the mask maker.  [[User:Fishal|Fishal]] 20:36, 10 February 2009 (EST)

==Who was right - Catholics or Protestants?==

==Who was right - Catholics or Protestants?==