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::::So, can we conclude what is becoming another endless "debate"?  Dr. Jensen, append it to say he rejects the miracle content, which would seem to satisfy PJR, is that satisfactory? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 06:52, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 
::::So, can we conclude what is becoming another endless "debate"?  Dr. Jensen, append it to say he rejects the miracle content, which would seem to satisfy PJR, is that satisfactory? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 06:52, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 
:::::there is something about Velikovsky that automatically stirs up terrific arguments!  The only point i'm trying to make is one of high relevance to some CP users: Christian creationists never cite or credit or use his work, that seems definite. The reason why seems best explained by the quote-- for a creationist to accept his theories you have to reject the Bible and miracles and accept evolution.  [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:13, 16 February 2009 (EST)
 
:::::there is something about Velikovsky that automatically stirs up terrific arguments!  The only point i'm trying to make is one of high relevance to some CP users: Christian creationists never cite or credit or use his work, that seems definite. The reason why seems best explained by the quote-- for a creationist to accept his theories you have to reject the Bible and miracles and accept evolution.  [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 07:13, 16 February 2009 (EST)
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::::::My main criticism of the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Immanuel_Velikovsky&diff=624276&oldid=624214 current statement], is that it describes the consensus view, apparently based on one quote. Perhaps the William D. Stansfield's ''Skeptical Inquirer'' article you mentioned above, has a more relevant quote on the creationist view? --[[User:Eric2009|Eric2009]] 07:31, 16 February 2009 (EST)
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