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Talk:World History Lecture Four (view source)
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::::::I find ''in vino veritas'' to be a more of a "true" statement ;) An interesting article on ''veritas'' is [http://www.formalontology.it/veritas.htm here].--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 12:07, 20 February 2009 (EST)
::::::I find ''in vino veritas'' to be a more of a "true" statement ;) An interesting article on ''veritas'' is [http://www.formalontology.it/veritas.htm here].--[[User_talk:Recorder|Recorder]] 12:07, 20 February 2009 (EST)
:::::::This inevitably depends on definitions of truth. Without wanting to put words into Mr Schlafly's mouth, I presume he is referring to a higher truth than the simply truth/falsity of a statement; this could be compared to the difference between 'faith' used as a synonym for any form of belief, and the specific theological concept of [[faith]]. Also the Romans of Augustus' day were very different, culturally, from the later, Christian Roman empire.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:19, 20 February 2009 (EST)
:::::::This inevitably depends on definitions of truth. Without wanting to put words into Mr Schlafly's mouth, I presume he is referring to a higher truth than the simply truth/falsity of a statement; this could be compared to the difference between 'faith' used as a synonym for any form of belief, and the specific theological concept of [[faith]]. Also the Romans of Augustus' day were very different, culturally, from the later, Christian Roman empire.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:19, 20 February 2009 (EST)
We have now moved away from the question of Roman intellectual achievement (which I say is great because, if nothing else, it is the foundation on which is built the whole edifice of law and jurisprudence under which we all live, no matter which oceans wash our shores) to one of the philosophical or theological import of a word. In both of them perhaps Andy should have made clear whether he was talking about Christian or Pagan Rome; and whether he meant Rome the city, or Rome the Empire. On the original discussion, might I just say that my life would have been poorer without the translations of Virgil, Horace, Catullus, Ovid, Cicero, Marcus Aurelius, Caesar, Pliny and Tacitus (all pagans) that have accompanied me at times through life. (And maybe I should add Plutarch who although Greek, lived within the Roman culture and wrote about Roman lives as much as he did Greek.)
:On the subject of truth, this higher truth, Cicero discussed it more than once. In "''On Fate''" he discoursed on man's use of free will and the role of truth within it.[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 14:50, 20 February 2009 (EST)