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Anyway, [[Pontius Pilate]] didn't do anything to help Jesus when the Jewish leaders rejected him and wanted him executed as "[[The Passion (movie)]]" illustrates so well. My hero rather is [[Socrates]], who died for the [[truth]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:38, 20 February 2009 (EST)
 
Anyway, [[Pontius Pilate]] didn't do anything to help Jesus when the Jewish leaders rejected him and wanted him executed as "[[The Passion (movie)]]" illustrates so well. My hero rather is [[Socrates]], who died for the [[truth]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:38, 20 February 2009 (EST)
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::Ed, yes it was stronger in government than philosophy, but I don't think anyone here has tried to insinuate in any way that it had the edge over the Greeks, especially Socrates, in pre-Christian thought, but no list of great philosophers would be complete without Cicero and Marcus Aurelius to name but two. The quotes I supplied above were in direct reply to Andy's request for ''Roman'' appreciation of the truth. Bringing in Pontius Pilate - especially the Mel Gibson version - doesn't quite work. We know next to nothing about whether he was a fair representation of a Roman governor and whether any of them were chosen for there ability to philosophise. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 18:04, 20 February 2009 (EST)
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