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Debate:Where is Hell? (view source)
Revision as of 20:29, February 21, 2009
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And there is no "[[punishment]]": the consequences of leading a life of homosexuality are natural (compare [[logical consequences]] in [[child discipline]], regrettably a red link at this writing - but this debate might become famous later on).
And there is no "[[punishment]]": the consequences of leading a life of homosexuality are natural (compare [[logical consequences]] in [[child discipline]], regrettably a red link at this writing - but this debate might become famous later on).
===Reparative therapy===
The problem with [[homosexual acts]], as with any other sin, is that it retards our spiritual growth or oven undoes it. People who steal, for example, necessarily lose their respect for other people's property and well-being. People who fornicate (i.e., engage in [[sexual intercourse]] outside of marriage) are largely using each other. The only way to express conjugal love properly is in the husband-wife relationship, as God ordained (Genesis 2:24). As to why this is so, you'll have to read [[Richard Cohen]]'s book, ''[[Coming Out Straight]]''. There are summaries and excerpts available at http://www.gaytostraight.org/ if you want to read more about this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:33, 21 February 2009 (EST)
The problem with [[homosexual acts]], as with any other sin, is that it retards our spiritual growth or oven undoes it. People who steal, for example, necessarily lose their respect for other people's property and well-being. People who fornicate (i.e., engage in [[sexual intercourse]] outside of marriage) are largely using each other. The only way to express conjugal love properly is in the husband-wife relationship, as God ordained (Genesis 2:24). As to why this is so, you'll have to read [[Richard Cohen]]'s book, ''[[Coming Out Straight]]''. There are summaries and excerpts available at http://www.gaytostraight.org/ if you want to read more about this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 09:33, 21 February 2009 (EST)
:Thanks to all who've responded so far, and particularly to ConservativeDude for starting things off. It takes some courage to share personal thoughts on issues like this, so I appreciate you all contributing.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 13:04, 21 February 2009 (EST)
:Thanks to all who've responded so far, and particularly to ConservativeDude for starting things off. It takes some courage to share personal thoughts on issues like this, so I appreciate you all contributing.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 13:04, 21 February 2009 (EST)
::Ed, by pushing the idea that homosexuality can be "cured" or somehow altered, you're foisting a deliberate and damaging falsehood. The only scientific studies ever to look into conversion/reparative therapy found that any "success" was offset by the [http://tech.mit.edu/V119/N11/col2.11c.html nearly doubled rates of depression and suicide] in the victims of this treatment ([http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_exst.htm#sch see?]). Any belief that reparative therapy works is only wishful thinking.
::You may not like homosexuality, and even think that it's a sin or an abomination. But by trying to change it - or suggesting that it CAN or SHOULD be changed - you're encouraging the negligent homicide of thousands of gay Americans. Please, please [http://www.acandidworld.net/2008/09/07/the-horrific-evils-of-reparative-therapy-and-its-unsurprising-adherents/ read the facts] on this dangerous "treatment" and consider its results objectively before arguing for it here.-[[User:LuciusF|LuciusF]] 15:29, 21 February 2009 (EST)
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