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*<small>One indent will do fine, okay?  I have a 24" wide screen, and you guys with your constant indents create a scroll bar on even my monitor!</small>  The constant inserting of information about who is Gay, and who isn't, means nothing to the article, unless one is trying to imply Hitler was Homosexual.  If he was, say it, and give the citations.  If you have no proof, say he was a friend of someone who was Gay, and leave it.  No need to say "close, personal, confidant and friend" to insert the thought he might be Gay. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]]</sup> 22:24, 23 March 2007 (EDT)
 
*<small>One indent will do fine, okay?  I have a 24" wide screen, and you guys with your constant indents create a scroll bar on even my monitor!</small>  The constant inserting of information about who is Gay, and who isn't, means nothing to the article, unless one is trying to imply Hitler was Homosexual.  If he was, say it, and give the citations.  If you have no proof, say he was a friend of someone who was Gay, and leave it.  No need to say "close, personal, confidant and friend" to insert the thought he might be Gay. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] <sup>[[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]]</sup> 22:24, 23 March 2007 (EDT)
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:As this article [http://www.leaderu.com/jhs/lively.html]  states,
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::''the homosexual dimension of Nazi history is overlooked ...From the Judeo-Christian cultural context, however, the rise of homosexuality necessarily represents the diminution of Biblical morality as a restraint on human passions. Consequently, where Judeo-Christian ideals decrease, violence and depravity increase. ... the Bible was no longer accepted as God's divine and inerrant guide, it could be ignored or reinterpreted. By the time the Nazis came to power, "Bible-believing" Christians, (the Confessing Church) were a small minority.  ...The schools were heavily targeted in order to de-Christianize the young. '''Mandatory prayer in schools was stopped in 1935''', and from 1941 onward, religious instruction was completely eliminated for all students over 14 years old (ibid.:494f). ...From the early years, leading Nazis openly attacked Christianity. Joseph Goebbels declared that "Christianity has infused our erotic attitudes with dishonesty" (Taylor:20). It is in '''this campaign against Judeo- Christian morality that we find the reason for the German people's acceptance of Nazism's most extreme atrocities. Their religious foundations had been systematically eroded over a period of decades''' ... As Poliakov notes, "[W]hen moral barriers collapsed under the impact of Nazi preaching...the same anti-Semitic movement that led to the slaughter of the Jews gave scope and license to an obscene revolt against God and the moral law. An open and implacable war was declared on the Christian tradition...[which unleashed] a frenzied and unavowed hatred of Christ and the Ten Commandments" (Poliakov:300). '''There is no question that homosexuality figures prominently in the history of the Holocaust'''. As we have noted, the ideas for disposing of the Jews originated with Lanz von Leibenfels. '''The first years of terrorism against the Jews were carried out by the homosexuals of the SA.''' The first concentration camp, as well as the system for training its brutal guards, was the work of Ernst Roehm. The first pogrom, '''Kristallnacht, was orchestrated in 1938 by the homosexual Reinhard Heydrich'''. And it was the transvestite Goering who started the "evolution of the Final Solution...[with an] order to Heydrich (Jan. 24, 1939) concerning the solution of the Jewish question by 'emigration' and 'evacuation'" (Robinson:25). Still, despite their disproportionate role, homosexuals did not cause the Holocaust. They, along with so many others who had lost their moral bearings, were merely instruments in its enactment. The Holocaust must be blamed on the one whom the Bible compares to "a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour" (NKJ:I Peter 5:8)....Yet, '''while we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust, we must not ignore their central role in Nazism'''. To the myth of the "pink triangle"-the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted-we must respond with the reality of the "pink swastika."
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Much of this material, and it's excellant sourcing, will find a convenient home in Conservapedia.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:57, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
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