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/* Fractals and Intelligent Design */
:::The experiment you cite has potentially serious structural flaws: is it truly a random process causing spontaneous complexity or was the experiment itself designed in the precise way needed to create this degree of complexity? What safeguards can you have against this in a human-designed (and thus artificial) experiment?
:::Also, you have not answered my original question about the shape. A fractal is complex, having all the self-similarity. To produce it, the fern would have to divide, bisect, and scale its own operations. What would be the source of such power? These are not simple shapes to come up with. In contrast, a circle (or oval) is a relatively simple shape. To scale it you just have to evenly push out the border, expanding outwards. If all our plantlife were like tree trunks or the circular fungi that grow on logs, I would find your arguments more plausible. But the wide complexity of shapes and structures found in nature cannot have such a simple principle as natural selection to explain them! It cannot have another explanation than that of being designed by an Intelligent Being. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 16:41, 2 March 2009 (EST)
::::I haven't read the original papers related to the experiment, so I can't comment on your questions regarding it. As for the fractal question, that's the beauty of many fractal formulas - a relatively simple expression can yield complex results simply by iterating it enough times. Take a look at [http://www.home.aone.net.au/~byzantium/ferns/fractal.html this page] regarding fractal fern patterns, and you'll see that subtle variations in the formula parameters yield different outcomes. If these patterns were encoded in DNA, it's easy to see how it wouldn't take much of a genetic variation to result in diversity over time. Also, check out [http://spanky.triumf.ca/www/fractint/fractal_types.html this page], which lists various patterns that can be generated by the fractint freeware program, with links to sample output. If you've never played with fractint before, you're in for a treat. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:07, 2 March 2009 (EST)
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