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:I can agree that pleasure is not the only way, I will change accordingly. Point two, you want to rename consequence? How do you say the result of something which you did not wish for? I was giving the liberal attitude, not the Christian attitude when describing a baby. I know he/she is a gift, Barack Obama and the liberals don't. It is in fact 'her' consequence. The male doesn't have to do anything but conceive. I am definitely saying the male is responsible for his actions before and after, but the burden is on the female.--[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 23:29, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

:I can agree that pleasure is not the only way, I will change accordingly. Point two, you want to rename consequence? How do you say the result of something which you did not wish for? I was giving the liberal attitude, not the Christian attitude when describing a baby. I know he/she is a gift, Barack Obama and the liberals don't. It is in fact 'her' consequence. The male doesn't have to do anything but conceive. I am definitely saying the male is responsible for his actions before and after, but the burden is on the female.--[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 23:29, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

::I think conservatives sometimes fall into the habit of saying "she must take responsibility for the consequences!" in a tone that almost sounds an awful lot like "suffer the consequences".  Anyway, I don't mind the word per se, but taking a tone that can be taken to imply that having a baby is somehow a punishment for sin is playing right into "pro-choice" hands. [[User:Pepperlynn|Pepperlynn]] 00:03, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

::I think conservatives sometimes fall into the habit of saying "she must take responsibility for the consequences!" in a tone that almost sounds an awful lot like "suffer the consequences".  Anyway, I don't mind the word per se, but taking a tone that can be taken to imply that having a baby is somehow a punishment for sin is playing right into "pro-choice" hands. [[User:Pepperlynn|Pepperlynn]] 00:03, 10 March 2009 (EDT)