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Talk:The Manchurian Candidate (view source)
Revision as of 19:59, April 8, 2009
, 19:59, April 8, 2009conditioning or what?
::In 1960 the assassination plot was far fetched but not the brainwashing. For example Ronald Reagan starred in a 1954 fil, "Prisoner of War" that showed highly effective Communist brainwashing in Korea. Unless our users know that they will be baffled by the film. Whether this sort of brainwashing is or is not thought possible in 2009 is a different issue deserves a separate article on brainwashing. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 08:33, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
::In 1960 the assassination plot was far fetched but not the brainwashing. For example Ronald Reagan starred in a 1954 fil, "Prisoner of War" that showed highly effective Communist brainwashing in Korea. Unless our users know that they will be baffled by the film. Whether this sort of brainwashing is or is not thought possible in 2009 is a different issue deserves a separate article on brainwashing. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 08:33, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
==Inducement to murder==
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:Yet perhaps these nay-sayers have ignored one salient fact: the 1950s were ''not'' the first time that an aggressive power, dominated by "true believers" in an ideology, had used subconscious conditioning to impel men to commit political murder. Centuries earlier, at the time of the [[Crusades]], the secret order known as the Assassins used a form of conditioning, part drug-induced (specifically, [[hashish]], hence the name ''assassins'' or ''hashshasheen'', literally "hashish addicts") and part sexual, to produce men dedicated to political murder in the name of [[Islam]]. That the USSR and/or the PRC would have used a much more sophisticated technique (described in the film as part light-induced and part drug-induced), if such a technique had been feasible, ought to have surprised no one. If today the consensus remains that no such mental conditioning (other than harsh interrogation under sleep deprivation) was possible, that is only because no Western psychiatrist or neurologist has ever duplicated the technique, nor do the archives of the Soviet [[KGB|Committee for State Security]] contain anything that one could reliably construe as a reference to any such technique.
This should not be lost, even if the present article is not the best place for it. All our readers would like to know what motivates terrorists, such as the [[suicide bomber]]s. What sort of inducement do their masters use? Drugs, sex, promises of eternal bliss or of large cash payments to family survivors? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 15:59, 8 April 2009 (EDT)