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**Well, for one thing, the section describing Stalin as an Okhrana informant definitely needs a complete overhaul. Mr. Sebag Montefiore deals at length with this in his book. He cites both the evidence for and against the rumors of Stalin's Okhrana ties. At the time of his alleged "treason," Stalin was actually one of the Bolshevik movement's top intelligence men and was charged with trying to ''recruit Okhrana men'' as informants. According to Montefiore, the Okhrana ordered the agents Stalin approached to feed him false information in hopes of creating an internal war within the Bolshevik Movement. This, and the subsequent exposal of Okhrana spy Roman Malinovsky, made Stalin so unspeakably paranoid that decades after the Revolution he was still certain that he was surrounded by traitors. This was the ''real'' reason for the Purge of 1937. [[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 22:14, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
 
**Well, for one thing, the section describing Stalin as an Okhrana informant definitely needs a complete overhaul. Mr. Sebag Montefiore deals at length with this in his book. He cites both the evidence for and against the rumors of Stalin's Okhrana ties. At the time of his alleged "treason," Stalin was actually one of the Bolshevik movement's top intelligence men and was charged with trying to ''recruit Okhrana men'' as informants. According to Montefiore, the Okhrana ordered the agents Stalin approached to feed him false information in hopes of creating an internal war within the Bolshevik Movement. This, and the subsequent exposal of Okhrana spy Roman Malinovsky, made Stalin so unspeakably paranoid that decades after the Revolution he was still certain that he was surrounded by traitors. This was the ''real'' reason for the Purge of 1937. [[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 22:14, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
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"Before your eyes, rises the hero of Gogol's story who, in a fit of abberation, imagined that he was the King of [[Spain]]. Such is the fate of all megalomaniacs."  
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* "Before your eyes, rises the hero of Gogol's story who, in a fit of abberation, imagined that he was the King of [[Spain]]. Such is the fate of all megalomaniacs."  
 
--Joseph Stalin, ''Proletariatis Brdzola'', August 1905. Quoted by Simon Sebag Montefiore, "Young Stalin," page 376.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 19:14, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
 
--Joseph Stalin, ''Proletariatis Brdzola'', August 1905. Quoted by Simon Sebag Montefiore, "Young Stalin," page 376.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 19:14, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
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"God's not unjust, he doesn't actually exist. We've been deceived. If God existed, he'd have made the world more just... I'll lend you a book and you'll see."
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* "God's not unjust, he doesn't actually exist. We've been deceived. If God existed, he'd have made the world more just... I'll lend you a book and you'll see."
 
--A teenaged Stalin after reading [[Charles Darwin]]'s "The Origin of Species." Quoted by Simon Sebag Montefiore, "Young Stalin," page 49.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 19:30, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
 
--A teenaged Stalin after reading [[Charles Darwin]]'s "The Origin of Species." Quoted by Simon Sebag Montefiore, "Young Stalin," page 49.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 19:30, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
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"Comrade Koba told you that we were against you and demanded your sacking from the Committee, but I promise you nothing of the sort happened and everything Koba told you was a malicious lie! Yes: a calumny to discredit us! I just wonder at the man's impudence. I know how worthless he is, but I didn't expect such 'courage.' But it turns out that he'll use any means if he thinks the ends justify them. The end in this case - the ambition - is to present himself as a great man before the nation. But... God didn't grant him the right gift, so he has to resort to intrigues, lies and other 'bagatelles.' Such a filthy person wanted to pollute our sacred mission with sewage!"
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* "Comrade Koba told you that we were against you and demanded your sacking from the Committee, but I promise you nothing of the sort happened and everything Koba told you was a malicious lie! Yes: a calumny to discredit us! I just wonder at the man's impudence. I know how worthless he is, but I didn't expect such 'courage.' But it turns out that he'll use any means if he thinks the ends justify them. The end in this case - the ambition - is to present himself as a great man before the nation. But... God didn't grant him the right gift, so he has to resort to intrigues, lies and other 'bagatelles.' Such a filthy person wanted to pollute our sacred mission with sewage!"
 
--Georgian [[Menshevik]] Noe Khomeriki in a 1904 letter to a member of the Social Democratic Central Committee for the Caucausus region. Simon Sebag Montefiore, "Young Stalin," page 125.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 19:30, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
 
--Georgian [[Menshevik]] Noe Khomeriki in a 1904 letter to a member of the Social Democratic Central Committee for the Caucausus region. Simon Sebag Montefiore, "Young Stalin," page 125.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 19:30, 16 April 2009 (EDT)
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"Does Djilas, who is himself a writer, not know what human suffering and the human heart are? Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"  
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*"Does Djilas, who is himself a writer, not know what human suffering and the human heart are? Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?"  
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--In response to complaints about the rapes and lootings commited by the [[Red Army]] during the [[Second World War]]. [[Milovan Djilas]], "Conversations with Stalin," page 95.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 09:03, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
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--In response to complaints about the rapes and looting commited by the [[Red Army]] during the [[Second World War]]. [[Milovan Djilas]], "Conversations with Stalin," page 95.[[User:Kingstowngalway|Kingstowngalway]] 09:03, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

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