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loving sacrifice vs. selfishness
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:::::::I would simply like to point out the Samauri of Japan, who would rather commit suicide than live with any sort of cultural dishonor. [[User:EelisA|EelisA]] 12:55, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
 
:::::::I would simply like to point out the Samauri of Japan, who would rather commit suicide than live with any sort of cultural dishonor. [[User:EelisA|EelisA]] 12:55, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
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There's a difference between sacrificing yourself '''for''' someone, and merely refusing to live with emotional pain. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." (John 5:13) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 13:03, 6 May 2009 (EDT)
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